James Toney signs multi fight deal with the UFC

[HattonTheHammer]

I dunno man, yeah it's easy to say Toney's going to suck, but it all depends on how he trains, who trains him etc etc.

Toney fighting in UFC and doing alright for himself is just as rediculous as saying Mosely has a chance against Floyd.

you never fully know whats going to happen till they get in the ring and do it.

I'm going to reserve judgement....

mayorga...toney

no doubt white will put the spin on this and tell all that boxers are now joining the revolution completely ignoring the fact both guys peaked years ago

once they are inevitably both knocked out white will again claim victory in that it`ll somehow prove how martial arts is the superior sport

[rjj tszyu]

I dunno man, yeah it's easy to say Toney's going to suck, but it all depends on how he trains, who trains him etc etc.

Toney fighting in UFC and doing alright for himself is just as rediculous as saying Mosely has a chance against Floyd.

you never fully know whats going to happen till they get in the ring and do it.

I'm going to reserve judgement....

mayorga...toney

no doubt white will put the spin on this and tell all that boxers are now joining the revolution completely ignoring the fact both guys peaked years ago

once they are inevitably both knocked out white will again claim victory in that it`ll somehow prove how martial arts is the superior sport

That's his plan! Otherwise he'd be trying to get someone with really good wheels who could circle away from all the takedowns and clinches and could fire lighning bolts everytime the opponent comes forward with that gay stance from the outside thus ending with the MMA guy unconcious. But no he'll just go for stand still and roll the shoulders James Toney. White is a tosser who pretends he like boxing, the guy doesn't even know Juan Manuel Marquez's name. How is that a boxing fan??

[HattonTheHammer]

I dunno man, yeah it's easy to say Toney's going to suck, but it all depends on how he trains, who trains him etc etc.

Toney fighting in UFC and doing alright for himself is just as rediculous as saying Mosely has a chance against Floyd.

you never fully know whats going to happen till they get in the ring and do it.

I'm going to reserve judgement....

mayorga...toney

no doubt white will put the spin on this and tell all that boxers are now joining the revolution completely ignoring the fact both guys peaked years ago

once they are inevitably both knocked out white will again claim victory in that it`ll somehow prove how martial arts is the superior sport

That's his plan! Otherwise he'd be trying to get someone with really good wheels who could circle away from all the takedowns and clinches and could fire lighning bolts everytime the opponent comes forward with that gay stance from the outside thus ending with the MMA guy unconcious. But no he'll just go for stand still and roll the shoulders James Toney. White is a tosser who pretends he like boxing, the guy doesn't even know Juan Manuel Marquez's name. How is that a boxing fan??

It kills me when UFC fans state how theyre sport is superior because you can work the legs etc

The sport is essentially full of guys who failed to make it as a boxer hence the reason they do this sport. What the fuck do you think would happen to brock lesnar if he ever got in the ring with a klitschko or if couture fought calzaghe.

Every single UFC fighter of note at some point has dreamed of being a boxer because this is still the millionaire making sport. If you offered mayweather, mosley, pacquiao $70,000 dollars for a fight they`d laugh at you in the face. Ive no probs with dana white trying to compete and lets face it he does a far superior job of promoting UFC than anything boxing can possibly offer.

But this whole mixed martial arts is the superior sport thing has got to stop. Just ask couture, silva etc if theyve ever tried to become a boxer and whether they honestly believe they could go toe to toe with a second or 3rd rate fighter and not get banged out within 20seconds

[rjj tszyu]

mayorga...toney

no doubt white will put the spin on this and tell all that boxers are now joining the revolution completely ignoring the fact both guys peaked years ago

once they are inevitably both knocked out white will again claim victory in that it`ll somehow prove how martial arts is the superior sport

That's his plan! Otherwise he'd be trying to get someone with really good wheels who could circle away from all the takedowns and clinches and could fire lighning bolts everytime the opponent comes forward with that gay stance from the outside thus ending with the MMA guy unconcious. But no he'll just go for stand still and roll the shoulders James Toney. White is a tosser who pretends he like boxing, the guy doesn't even know Juan Manuel Marquez's name. How is that a boxing fan??

It kills me when UFC fans state how theyre sport is superior because you can work the legs etc

The sport is essentially full of guys who failed to make it as a boxer hence the reason they do this sport. What the fuck do you think would happen to brock lesnar if he ever got in the ring with a klitschko or if couture fought calzaghe.

Every single UFC fighter of note at some point has dreamed of being a boxer because this is still the millionaire making sport. If you offered mayweather, mosley, pacquiao $70,000 dollars for a fight they`d laugh at you in the face. Ive no probs with dana white trying to compete and lets face it he does a far superior job of promoting UFC than anything boxing can possibly offer.

But this whole mixed martial arts is the superior sport thing has got to stop. Just ask couture, silva etc if theyve ever tried to become a boxer and whether they honestly believe they could go toe to toe with a second or 3rd rate fighter and not get banged out within 20seconds

Exactly. Anderson Silva found out the hard way when he tried boxing!

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Jack of all trades, master of.....

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

That was very 'Scrap-esque' of me

[Jimmy G-Force]

mayorga...toney

no doubt white will put the spin on this and tell all that boxers are now joining the revolution completely ignoring the fact both guys peaked years ago

once they are inevitably both knocked out white will again claim victory in that it`ll somehow prove how martial arts is the superior sport

That's his plan! Otherwise he'd be trying to get someone with really good wheels who could circle away from all the takedowns and clinches and could fire lighning bolts everytime the opponent comes forward with that gay stance from the outside thus ending with the MMA guy unconcious. But no he'll just go for stand still and roll the shoulders James Toney. White is a tosser who pretends he like boxing, the guy doesn't even know Juan Manuel Marquez's name. How is that a boxing fan??

It kills me when UFC fans state how theyre sport is superior because you can work the legs etc

The sport is essentially full of guys who failed to make it as a boxer hence the reason they do this sport.What the fuck do you think would happen to brock lesnar if he ever got in the ring with a klitschko or if couture fought calzaghe.

Every single UFC fighter of note at some point has dreamed of being a boxer because this is still the millionaire making sport. If you offered mayweather, mosley, pacquiao $70,000 dollars for a fight they`d laugh at you in the face. Ive no probs with dana white trying to compete and lets face it he does a far superior job of promoting UFC than anything boxing can possibly offer.

But this whole mixed martial arts is the superior sport thing has got to stop. Just ask couture, silva etc if theyve ever tried to become a boxer and whether they honestly believe they could go toe to toe with a second or 3rd rate fighter and not get banged out within 20seconds

Lol, your ignorance holds no boundries.

For the record, an MMA fighter is a far more dangerous proposition to face than a boxer. These guys arent boxers, they are martial artists, and now multi-dimentional. Of course they dont have the striking abilities of boxers, but they can punch, they can kick, they wrestle, they can grapple, they can submit. They can basically kick ass in every area possible.

Go and Youtube Cain Valesquez's recent KO of Nogueria at UFC 110 and tell me that 3 punch combination wasnt beautifully tight, crisp and short. And this is from a guy who excels in wrestling and smashing your face in once he gets you to the ground. It was very impressive indeed.

[Hornfinger]

I'm yet to see any UFC fighter with anywhere close to half decent boxing skills.

It's not hard to look like a good puncher when you're Ko'ing a guy with with even worse skill.

[Jimmy G-Force]

I'm yet to see any UFC fighter with anywhere close to half decent boxing skills.

It's not hard to look like a good puncher when you're Ko'ing a guy with with even worse skill.

Check out Little Nog, Bronze Medalist in the Pan American Games, he has decent hands. Check out his last KO.

[HattonTheHammer]

I'm yet to see any UFC fighter with anywhere close to half decent boxing skills.

It's not hard to look like a good puncher when you're Ko'ing a guy with with even worse skill.

Check out Little Nog, Bronze Medalist in the Pan American Games, he has decent hands. Check out his last KO.

so why isnt he a boxer?

[Hornfinger]

I'm yet to see any UFC fighter with anywhere close to half decent boxing skills.

It's not hard to look like a good puncher when you're Ko'ing a guy with with even worse skill.

Check out Little Nog, Bronze Medalist in the Pan American Games, he has decent hands. Check out his last KO.

I'm sure it's very good but is he Ko'ing a boxer or is he Ko'ing a wrestler with his chin stuck out in the air? there is a big difference.

[HattonTheHammer]

That's his plan! Otherwise he'd be trying to get someone with really good wheels who could circle away from all the takedowns and clinches and could fire lighning bolts everytime the opponent comes forward with that gay stance from the outside thus ending with the MMA guy unconcious. But no he'll just go for stand still and roll the shoulders James Toney. White is a tosser who pretends he like boxing, the guy doesn't even know Juan Manuel Marquez's name. How is that a boxing fan??

It kills me when UFC fans state how theyre sport is superior because you can work the legs etc

The sport is essentially full of guys who failed to make it as a boxer hence the reason they do this sport.What the fuck do you think would happen to brock lesnar if he ever got in the ring with a klitschko or if couture fought calzaghe.

Every single UFC fighter of note at some point has dreamed of being a boxer because this is still the millionaire making sport. If you offered mayweather, mosley, pacquiao $70,000 dollars for a fight they`d laugh at you in the face. Ive no probs with dana white trying to compete and lets face it he does a far superior job of promoting UFC than anything boxing can possibly offer.

But this whole mixed martial arts is the superior sport thing has got to stop. Just ask couture, silva etc if theyve ever tried to become a boxer and whether they honestly believe they could go toe to toe with a second or 3rd rate fighter and not get banged out within 20seconds

Lol, your ignorance holds no boundries.

For the record, an MMA fighter is a far more dangerous proposition to face than a boxer. These guys arent boxers, they are martial artists, and now multi-dimentional. Of course they dont have the striking abilities of boxers, but they can punch, they can kick, they wrestle, they can grapple, they can submit. They can basically kick ass in every area possible.

Go and Youtube Cain Valesquez's recent KO of Nogueria at UFC 110 and tell me that 3 punch combination wasnt beautifully tight, crisp and short. And this is from a guy who excels in wrestling and smashing your face in once he gets you to the ground. It was very impressive indeed.

If you swapped the pay of both sports and mixed martial artists were earning millions of dollars dont you think the likes of floyd mayweather and bernard hopkins wouldnt just jump over to that?

And if they did they would no doubt own every single division and once agan the white frat boys who cant take getting beat f*ck out of would simply devise ANOTHER contact sport that they could get their shoe in.

Tell floyd mayweather that randy couture is a better allround athlete. floyd wouldnt give 2 shits he`d merely compare both mens bank balances and that would be the end of the story. UFC fighters arent idiots, they all know they could potentially make millions in the sport of boxing but the difference being our sport is full to the brim with world quality operators wanting those million dollar paydays while UFC is an expanding franchise full of young untapped talent that simply played the numbers game and realised theyd be better keeping to a safe little payday fighting guys with 21-4 rather than compete in a sport with hundreds of world class athletes.

Randy Couture fights guys with records of 18-4, in boxing that record wouldnt even get you on the card as a filler fight let alone a main eventer!!

[Mattyhitman]

It kills me when UFC fans state how theyre sport is superior because you can work the legs etc

The sport is essentially full of guys who failed to make it as a boxer hence the reason they do this sport.What the fuck do you think would happen to brock lesnar if he ever got in the ring with a klitschko or if couture fought calzaghe.

Every single UFC fighter of note at some point has dreamed of being a boxer because this is still the millionaire making sport. If you offered mayweather, mosley, pacquiao $70,000 dollars for a fight they`d laugh at you in the face. Ive no probs with dana white trying to compete and lets face it he does a far superior job of promoting UFC than anything boxing can possibly offer.

But this whole mixed martial arts is the superior sport thing has got to stop. Just ask couture, silva etc if theyve ever tried to become a boxer and whether they honestly believe they could go toe to toe with a second or 3rd rate fighter and not get banged out within 20seconds

Lol, your ignorance holds no boundries.

For the record, an MMA fighter is a far more dangerous proposition to face than a boxer. These guys arent boxers, they are martial artists, and now multi-dimentional. Of course they dont have the striking abilities of boxers, but they can punch, they can kick, they wrestle, they can grapple, they can submit. They can basically kick ass in every area possible.

Go and Youtube Cain Valesquez's recent KO of Nogueria at UFC 110 and tell me that 3 punch combination wasnt beautifully tight, crisp and short. And this is from a guy who excels in wrestling and smashing your face in once he gets you to the ground. It was very impressive indeed.

If you swapped the pay of both sports and mixed martial artists were earning millions of dollars dont you think the likes of floyd mayweather and bernard hopkins wouldnt just jump over to that?

And if they did they would no doubt own every single division and once agan the white frat boys who cant take getting beat f*ck out of would simply devise ANOTHER contact sport that they could get their shoe in.

Tell floyd mayweather that randy couture is a better allround athlete. floyd wouldnt give 2 shits he`d merely compare both mens bank balances and that would be the end of the story. UFC fighters arent idiots, they all know they could potentially make millions in the sport of boxing but the difference being our sport is full to the brim with world quality operators wanting those million dollar paydays while UFC is an expanding franchise full of young untapped talent that simply played the numbers game and realised theyd be better keeping to a safe little payday fighting guys with 21-4 rather than compete in a sport with hundreds of world class athletes.

Randy Couture fights guys with records of 18-4, in boxing that record wouldnt even get you on the card as a filler fight let alone a main eventer!!

Ridiculous my friend

UFC fighters start off with a base fighting style, wrestling, BJJ, Kickboxing, Sambo, Muay Thai etc, very few start off with a boxing background then make the transition to MMA. Simply because they didnt want to do boxing at the very start of their fighting careers. These guys want to be MMA artists because thats what they WANT to be, regardless of the money involved, they do it for the love of the sport.

[Hornfinger]

I do like to watch a bit of UFC but I sometimes think Dana is in an odd world.....

He signs a guy in kimbo who is a glorified youtube streetfighter, and now he is snapping up boxers who are on the brink of bxing retirement.

Would an aging UFC fighter on the brink of retirement go to boxing. I doubt it.

The UFC has grown a lot over the years and I'm interested to see where it will go from here. I don't think ageing boxers and bums that have filmed themselves punching other bums on youtube is the answer.

[HattonTheHammer]

Lol, your ignorance holds no boundries.

For the record, an MMA fighter is a far more dangerous proposition to face than a boxer. These guys arent boxers, they are martial artists, and now multi-dimentional. Of course they dont have the striking abilities of boxers, but they can punch, they can kick, they wrestle, they can grapple, they can submit. They can basically kick ass in every area possible.

Go and Youtube Cain Valesquez's recent KO of Nogueria at UFC 110 and tell me that 3 punch combination wasnt beautifully tight, crisp and short. And this is from a guy who excels in wrestling and smashing your face in once he gets you to the ground. It was very impressive indeed.

If you swapped the pay of both sports and mixed martial artists were earning millions of dollars dont you think the likes of floyd mayweather and bernard hopkins wouldnt just jump over to that?

And if they did they would no doubt own every single division and once agan the white frat boys who cant take getting beat f*ck out of would simply devise ANOTHER contact sport that they could get their shoe in.

Tell floyd mayweather that randy couture is a better allround athlete. floyd wouldnt give 2 shits he`d merely compare both mens bank balances and that would be the end of the story. UFC fighters arent idiots, they all know they could potentially make millions in the sport of boxing but the difference being our sport is full to the brim with world quality operators wanting those million dollar paydays while UFC is an expanding franchise full of young untapped talent that simply played the numbers game and realised theyd be better keeping to a safe little payday fighting guys with 21-4 rather than compete in a sport with hundreds of world class athletes.

Randy Couture fights guys with records of 18-4, in boxing that record wouldnt even get you on the card as a filler fight let alone a main eventer!!

Ridiculous my friend

UFC fighters start off with a base fighting style, wrestling, BJJ, Kickboxing, Sambo, Muay Thai etc, very few start off with a boxing background then make the transition to MMA. Simply because they didnt want to do boxing at the very start of their fighting careers. These guys want to be MMA artists because thats what they WANT to be, regardless of the money involved, they do it for the love of the sport.

you seriously hand on heart believe that

You honestly think that none of the current UFC world champions have considered going into boxing and making millions just because they love MMA??

bollocks mate, they dont make the transition because they know the level of talent is just far too dense in boxing.

I`ll reiterate my point again, would mayweather, pacquiao, mosley heck even the likes of froch, kessler, hatton entertain the idea of main eventing against someone who has a 20% defeat record??