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    Miranda can punch and I think "even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then" and I think he's got the chance to land on a guy who has been careless enough to get caught by other not so great fighters. Bute damn well better play it safe vs Miranda early. Also Edison isn't above fouling the hell out of Bute to land punches too. If Miranda breaks Bute's jaw (which obviously can happen) like he broke Abraham's I don't see Bute having the success AA did.

    I know Guinn is a real long shot but I haven't been impressed by Povetkin. I've seen Povetkin get popped by Eddie Chambers enough to swell his eye shut and I've seen Povetkin gas out in the very same fight and had Eddie thrown ANYTHING in the last 3 rounds Povetkin would have been stopped...he was that tired. And he was ineffective with his attack BUT of course that's against Eddie Chambers' defense so I think he'll land on Guinn but he won't hurt Guinn and pair that with Guinn's power (when he throws) and Povetkin's questionable stamina then you've got a chance at an upset.

    The reason why they are called "upsets" is because they are unexpected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Miranda can punch and I think "even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then" and I think he's got the chance to land on a guy who has been careless enough to get caught by other not so great fighters. Bute damn well better play it safe vs Miranda early. Also Edison isn't above fouling the hell out of Bute to land punches too. If Miranda breaks Bute's jaw (which obviously can happen) like he broke Abraham's I don't see Bute having the success AA did.

    I know Guinn is a real long shot but I haven't been impressed by Povetkin. I've seen Povetkin get popped by Eddie Chambers enough to swell his eye shut and I've seen Povetkin gas out in the very same fight and had Eddie thrown ANYTHING in the last 3 rounds Povetkin would have been stopped...he was that tired. And he was ineffective with his attack BUT of course that's against Eddie Chambers' defense so I think he'll land on Guinn but he won't hurt Guinn and pair that with Guinn's power (when he throws) and Povetkin's questionable stamina then you've got a chance at an upset.

    The reason why they are called "upsets" is because they are unexpected.
    I seriously just do not understand the obsession this forum has with lucien bute

    Allan green apart there isnt a single fighter in the super 6 who wouldnt beat him to a pulp given half the chance

    heck pascal would take bute to school
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    I think Bute is skilled as hell and he may rip through Edison Miranda like he was a nobody, but I'm just saying there is a chance that Miranda catches him and I think if he hurts Bute then he's going to finish him off. I have my doubts about Bute's toughness is all...I think Bute might be able to take Kessler (unless he improves with his new trainer).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I think Bute is skilled as hell and he may rip through Edison Miranda like he was a nobody, but I'm just saying there is a chance that Miranda catches him and I think if he hurts Bute then he's going to finish him off. I have my doubts about Bute's toughness is all...I think Bute might be able to take Kessler (unless he improves with his new trainer).
    defence is rock solid early on but with bute you always get feeling that come 8-9 onwards he can tend to become flat footed and a big puncher will always stand a chance against him.

    His a world class fighter that always puts on a good show at the bell centre. But im convinced that the second he steps out of canada and fights genuine class like most of the super6 boys he is gonna get found out
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    I think a guy like Carl Froch (if he lasts and there's little reason to think otherwise) can beat Bute. Bute reminds me a lot of Yusaf Mack, he can box, he has decent pop, but a durable opponent that has a steady attack can get to him....just my opinion. I know Miranda hasn't been the most durable or steady with his attack but he's still dangerous.

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    Bute will handle Miranda quite easily imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Bute will handle Miranda quite easily imo.
    ...more than likely but I just think it's a dangerous fight for Bute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Miranda can punch and I think "even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then" and I think he's got the chance to land on a guy who has been careless enough to get caught by other not so great fighters. Bute damn well better play it safe vs Miranda early. Also Edison isn't above fouling the hell out of Bute to land punches too. If Miranda breaks Bute's jaw (which obviously can happen) like he broke Abraham's I don't see Bute having the success AA did.

    I know Guinn is a real long shot but I haven't been impressed by Povetkin. I've seen Povetkin get popped by Eddie Chambers enough to swell his eye shut and I've seen Povetkin gas out in the very same fight and had Eddie thrown ANYTHING in the last 3 rounds Povetkin would have been stopped...he was that tired. And he was ineffective with his attack BUT of course that's against Eddie Chambers' defense so I think he'll land on Guinn but he won't hurt Guinn and pair that with Guinn's power (when he throws) and Povetkin's questionable stamina then you've got a chance at an upset.

    The reason why they are called "upsets" is because they are unexpected.
    I seriously just do not understand the obsession this forum has with lucien bute

    Allan green apart there isnt a single fighter in the super 6 who wouldnt beat him to a pulp given half the chance

    heck pascal would take bute to school
    Woah there buddy. I can't speak for everyone, but I can tell you why I like him. He is fast, he is powerful, and he uses body punches. I'm a big fan of devesating body punchers.

    Bute would thrash Froch, Kessler, and Dirrell (at this stage in his career) and if he didn't gas out, he would beat Abraham. Ward versus Bute would be an exhibition of boxing class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Miranda can punch and I think "even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then" and I think he's got the chance to land on a guy who has been careless enough to get caught by other not so great fighters. Bute damn well better play it safe vs Miranda early. Also Edison isn't above fouling the hell out of Bute to land punches too. If Miranda breaks Bute's jaw (which obviously can happen) like he broke Abraham's I don't see Bute having the success AA did.

    I know Guinn is a real long shot but I haven't been impressed by Povetkin. I've seen Povetkin get popped by Eddie Chambers enough to swell his eye shut and I've seen Povetkin gas out in the very same fight and had Eddie thrown ANYTHING in the last 3 rounds Povetkin would have been stopped...he was that tired. And he was ineffective with his attack BUT of course that's against Eddie Chambers' defense so I think he'll land on Guinn but he won't hurt Guinn and pair that with Guinn's power (when he throws) and Povetkin's questionable stamina then you've got a chance at an upset.

    The reason why they are called "upsets" is because they are unexpected.
    I seriously just do not understand the obsession this forum has with lucien bute

    Allan green apart there isnt a single fighter in the super 6 who wouldnt beat him to a pulp given half the chance

    heck pascal would take bute to school
    Woah there buddy. I can't speak for everyone, but I can tell you why I like him. He is fast, he is powerful, and he uses body punches. I'm a big fan of devesating body punchers.

    Bute would thrash Froch, Kessler, and Dirrell (at this stage in his career) and if he didn't gas out, he would beat Abraham. Ward versus Bute would be an exhibition of boxing class.
    I agree. Bute is an outstanding talent and he would have entered into the Super 6 as one of the favorites (he would have been my choice to win).

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    I like Botha over Holyfield & Froch over Kessler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Miranda can punch and I think "even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then" and I think he's got the chance to land on a guy who has been careless enough to get caught by other not so great fighters. Bute damn well better play it safe vs Miranda early. Also Edison isn't above fouling the hell out of Bute to land punches too. If Miranda breaks Bute's jaw (which obviously can happen) like he broke Abraham's I don't see Bute having the success AA did.

    I know Guinn is a real long shot but I haven't been impressed by Povetkin. I've seen Povetkin get popped by Eddie Chambers enough to swell his eye shut and I've seen Povetkin gas out in the very same fight and had Eddie thrown ANYTHING in the last 3 rounds Povetkin would have been stopped...he was that tired. And he was ineffective with his attack BUT of course that's against Eddie Chambers' defense so I think he'll land on Guinn but he won't hurt Guinn and pair that with Guinn's power (when he throws) and Povetkin's questionable stamina then you've got a chance at an upset.

    The reason why they are called "upsets" is because they are unexpected.
    I seriously just do not understand the obsession this forum has with lucien bute

    Allan green apart there isnt a single fighter in the super 6 who wouldnt beat him to a pulp given half the chance

    heck pascal would take bute to school
    Woah there buddy. I can't speak for everyone, but I can tell you why I like him. He is fast, he is powerful, and he uses body punches. I'm a big fan of devesating body punchers.

    Bute would thrash Froch, Kessler, and Dirrell (at this stage in his career) and if he didn't gas out, he would beat Abraham. Ward versus Bute would be an exhibition of boxing class.
    He got the crap beat out of him by andrade and the only reason he wasnt knocked out was because of the ref blatantly cheating to help him.

    If Librado Andrade can beat the crap out of bute i sure as hell dont give him much chance against far heavier hitters like kessler, abraham and smarter fighters like froch and dirrell.
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    TBA over Sergio Mora...hey,the kid is hungry.

    Actually leaning towards Urango over Alexander tonight on second thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post

    I seriously just do not understand the obsession this forum has with lucien bute

    Allan green apart there isnt a single fighter in the super 6 who wouldnt beat him to a pulp given half the chance

    heck pascal would take bute to school
    Woah there buddy. I can't speak for everyone, but I can tell you why I like him. He is fast, he is powerful, and he uses body punches. I'm a big fan of devesating body punchers.

    Bute would thrash Froch, Kessler, and Dirrell (at this stage in his career) and if he didn't gas out, he would beat Abraham. Ward versus Bute would be an exhibition of boxing class.
    He got the crap beat out of him by andrade and the only reason he wasnt knocked out was because of the ref blatantly cheating to help him.

    If Librado Andrade can beat the crap out of bute i sure as hell dont give him much chance against far heavier hitters like kessler, abraham and smarter fighters like froch and dirrell.
    That's one of the dumbest things I read. What exactly makes Fraud a smart fighter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post

    Woah there buddy. I can't speak for everyone, but I can tell you why I like him. He is fast, he is powerful, and he uses body punches. I'm a big fan of devesating body punchers.

    Bute would thrash Froch, Kessler, and Dirrell (at this stage in his career) and if he didn't gas out, he would beat Abraham. Ward versus Bute would be an exhibition of boxing class.
    He got the crap beat out of him by andrade and the only reason he wasnt knocked out was because of the ref blatantly cheating to help him.

    If Librado Andrade can beat the crap out of bute i sure as hell dont give him much chance against far heavier hitters like kessler, abraham and smarter fighters like froch and dirrell.
    That's one of the dumbest things I read. What exactly makes Fraud a smart fighter?
    His calling Froch a "smarter fighter" is based on the same thing that makes butter faces look hot at the end of a party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post

    Woah there buddy. I can't speak for everyone, but I can tell you why I like him. He is fast, he is powerful, and he uses body punches. I'm a big fan of devesating body punchers.

    Bute would thrash Froch, Kessler, and Dirrell (at this stage in his career) and if he didn't gas out, he would beat Abraham. Ward versus Bute would be an exhibition of boxing class.
    He got the crap beat out of him by andrade and the only reason he wasnt knocked out was because of the ref blatantly cheating to help him.

    If Librado Andrade can beat the crap out of bute i sure as hell dont give him much chance against far heavier hitters like kessler, abraham and smarter fighters like froch and dirrell.
    That's one of the dumbest things I read. What exactly makes Fraud a smart fighter?
    Whatever VD, you clearly don't know boxing. It's always the slickest, smartest fighters like Froch who don't get credit. Froch is so smart that he knew that if he threw punches at air all night against Dirrell & focused on punching accurately only when in the clinch, then the judges would give him a extremely dubious decision. He's a tactical mastermind.

    Other ring geniuses through the ages: Samuel Peter, David Diaz, Randall 'Tex' Cobb.




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