Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
Mayweather doesn't have a snapping Larry Holmes type jab, but how he thrusts it out allows for him to get a lot of "push" behind his jab. Also most guys land their jab in glancing fashion where as Mayweather usually lands it square on his opponent which also makes it very hard for someone to move in on, especially when he jabs to the body. Its hard enough that you can't move forward though it.

You say the nightmare matchup for Mosley is a guy who lives off the jab and controls distance. That sounds like Mayweather to a tee when he isn't facing neanderthal opponents or guys so slow he can get away with anything against them. Watching Mayweather against Corrales, Castillo(especially the second fight), Oscar De La Hoya, and JMM you will see that he uses the jab a lot in these fights. You won't see it as much against Hatton because Mayweather was on his heels too much and he really likes to lunge in when he jabs which a less aggressive Mosley will allow him to do.
Mosley has better feet than all of those guys. Floyd can control distance against fighters who have average/conventional feet. I don't think Mayweather did a great job of controlling distance in the early rounds against Judah or Hatton. Hatton was getting in on him the whole fight, but Floyd was able take advantage of Hatton's aggression and poor defensive. Either way, Hatton is a conventional inside fighter and Judah is a conventional boxer-puncher.

Shane has trouble right fighters with EXCEPTIONAL jabs. Floyd has a good jab. Yes, Cotto has an exceptional jab.

I don't know where people come up with the notion that a jab is the answer to Mayweather. Other than a few rounds from Oscar, the most trouble he has been given has been by a swarmer (Castillo), a southpaw (with a straight left, a more powerful punch and harder to time and counter cleanly with a cross), and an awkward fighter (Augustus).

To be clear again, I still pick Floyd to win. The more accurage statement this: Floyd is not an ideal matchup for Mosley, and Mosley has looked his best in the last few years againsts fighters who are very good matchups for him (Vargas, Mayorga). This casts doubts as to whether Shane can beat a great fighter when the style matchup does not clearly favor Shane. Shane has never faced anybody who presents the challenges of Mayweather, and he has lost to lesser fighters.

That being said, Mosley, unless he has gotten old in the last year, he offers a combination of challenges to Mayweather that he has yet to face. He has never fought somebody with the size, strength, speed, power, style, and mental toughness of Mosley. You can't even reference the JMM fight, because as great as JMM is, he is slow and stationary and makes his living counterpunching aggressive fighters. On top of that he's much smaller than Floyd.

Mayweather has fought two real WW's - Baldy and Oscar. Baldy has feet in cement. He was an idea matchup. Oscar gave him a close fight (but a clear win for Mayweather), but Oscar does to have Mosley's speed and he fights in a more conventional way.