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    Default Re: Am I at a quality Gym?

    Quote Originally Posted by NWAaTtItUdE View Post

    Nice, my only concern is the fact that since I started (On Monday) the class has been the same (I'm not referring to me, I know that I will be learning the basics for about a month or two, but the whole class). It has pretty much been the same routine everyday, shouldn't the rountine be changed up? As I mentioned in my first post its basically:

    ...-
    1 or 2 Round of mitts I believe (The Trainer is able to do mitts with about 3 people each class, everyone doesnt get a chance since the class is 1 hour)

    And then class is over, I thought we would have different routines every class, such as strength and conditioning one class, then something else the next. Can someone verify how a boxing class should go? Or that I'm in a regular boxing class please lol.
    I don't think it is a (very) big deal that you do the same conditioning work each day -- some of the trainers (here) might disagree and there is some evidence that mixing it up a bit helps, but as to the technical details being the same that is expected.

    Boxing, and what you describe in specific, has a pretty varied 'routine' that already allows for a lot of variety.


    As long as different people are getting different techniques based on their own level of development.

    My coach divides us roughly into 2-3 groups and give the actual training (in the ring) in basically beginner/intermediate/advanced groups. Everyone in the ring isn't usually doing the same thing, but for use beginners a couple are working on static punching, a few on just moving and punching, while a others might be doing catch a fire or very basic 'shadow' sparring.

    Sometimes I will be doing something more advanced (after having trained almost 4 months) and the next day I might be working with a guy who is just 'graduating' to partner training and so we'll be doing something more basic. No problem -- it's all good at my level.

    When we get to bag work, again everyone is working at their on level -- coach tries to pair us up with someone at about the same condition and skill level. Some have only a jab and straight punch standing still, others add in moving and basic punchin, then he adds hooks, etc.

    Personally, I am working on SOMETHING with every punch. That's just me, but I am a pretty cerebral guy and I try not to waste any time just doing it the same old way mindlessly.

    Don't get me wrong, I don't keep changing what works -- once something is clicking, I concentrate on improving something else no matter how small the detail.

    The mitt work is always going to be an issue in a large class, as long as the coach is the only one qualified to hold the mitts (and this is a pretty significant skill.) He can only handle just so many folks simultaneously.

    As to physical development, we do our own weight lifting, and you can do this alone as well as running by yourself probably if you need more of that type of work.

    Frankly, I would really rather see "more technique" and more "bag time" with coaching (instead of conditioning) but as other (more experienced) folks have indicated, a lot of even young, healthy looking guys flag out quickly at a boxing (or muy thai for that matter) practice.

    BTW, the biggest thing you can do to improve your staying ability quickly is to concentrate on: Breathing (even before you feel the need), Relaxing (any muscle not actively working), and maintaining good form/posture.

    If you combine those 3 with constantly Moving (in a balanced way) you have the foundation on which ALL martial arts, including boxing, are built. This even applies to BJJ and Grappling.

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    HerbM

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    Default Re: Am I at a quality Gym?

    Quote Originally Posted by HerbM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NWAaTtItUdE View Post

    Nice, my only concern is the fact that since I started (On Monday) the class has been the same (I'm not referring to me, I know that I will be learning the basics for about a month or two, but the whole class). It has pretty much been the same routine everyday, shouldn't the rountine be changed up? As I mentioned in my first post its basically:

    ...-
    1 or 2 Round of mitts I believe (The Trainer is able to do mitts with about 3 people each class, everyone doesnt get a chance since the class is 1 hour)

    And then class is over, I thought we would have different routines every class, such as strength and conditioning one class, then something else the next. Can someone verify how a boxing class should go? Or that I'm in a regular boxing class please lol.
    I don't think it is a (very) big deal that you do the same conditioning work each day -- some of the trainers (here) might disagree and there is some evidence that mixing it up a bit helps, but as to the technical details being the same that is expected.

    Boxing, and what you describe in specific, has a pretty varied 'routine' that already allows for a lot of variety.


    As long as different people are getting different techniques based on their own level of development.

    My coach divides us roughly into 2-3 groups and give the actual training (in the ring) in basically beginner/intermediate/advanced groups. Everyone in the ring isn't usually doing the same thing, but for use beginners a couple are working on static punching, a few on just moving and punching, while a others might be doing catch a fire or very basic 'shadow' sparring.

    Sometimes I will be doing something more advanced (after having trained almost 4 months) and the next day I might be working with a guy who is just 'graduating' to partner training and so we'll be doing something more basic. No problem -- it's all good at my level.

    When we get to bag work, again everyone is working at their on level -- coach tries to pair us up with someone at about the same condition and skill level. Some have only a jab and straight punch standing still, others add in moving and basic punchin, then he adds hooks, etc.

    Personally, I am working on SOMETHING with every punch. That's just me, but I am a pretty cerebral guy and I try not to waste any time just doing it the same old way mindlessly.

    Don't get me wrong, I don't keep changing what works -- once something is clicking, I concentrate on improving something else no matter how small the detail.

    The mitt work is always going to be an issue in a large class, as long as the coach is the only one qualified to hold the mitts (and this is a pretty significant skill.) He can only handle just so many folks simultaneously.

    As to physical development, we do our own weight lifting, and you can do this alone as well as running by yourself probably if you need more of that type of work.

    Frankly, I would really rather see "more technique" and more "bag time" with coaching (instead of conditioning) but as other (more experienced) folks have indicated, a lot of even young, healthy looking guys flag out quickly at a boxing (or muy thai for that matter) practice.

    BTW, the biggest thing you can do to improve your staying ability quickly is to concentrate on: Breathing (even before you feel the need), Relaxing (any muscle not actively working), and maintaining good form/posture.

    If you combine those 3 with constantly Moving (in a balanced way) you have the foundation on which ALL martial arts, including boxing, are built. This even applies to BJJ and Grappling.

    --
    HerbM
    Wow thanks that alot of good advice, I'm going to talk to more of the boxers and found out if there are other routines we do. I wasn't expecting the class to be some repetitive, I thought we would have a different routine each class. But it seems that most boxing gyms have a repetitive routine for their classes, so it seems this gym is quality, I will definately be joining, but I also would like to hear some more answers and opinions towards my first post

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