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    Default Re: Clottey said Pacquiao doesn't hit hard then why he's reluctant to engage?

    Manny's power at this weight has been surprising to me (therein lies the drugs argument), so I disagree with the thought that its just speed and angles. Hatton's chin was on the wane but that was an ungodly KO. He hurt Cotto badly, capital letters BADLY, with single punches. Only reason Cotto survived as much as he did was he got on his bike big time. ODLH and Clottey have always been very durable guys so its not surprising he didn't KO them with one shot or many shots but he got their attention without a doubt.

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    Default Re: Clottey said Pacquiao doesn't hit hard then why he's reluctant to engage?

    Clottey should have no trouble eating Pacquiao's pillow punches, right?

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    Default Re: Clottey said Pacquiao doesn't hit hard then why he's reluctant to engage?

    He has an abundance of physical tools, however Clottey just doesn't have the mental make up of a great fighter.

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    Default Re: Clottey said Pacquiao doesn't hit hard then why he's reluctant to engage?

    Pacquiao is a very hard hitting Superlightweight.

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    Default Re: Clottey said Pacquiao doesn't hit hard then why he's reluctant to engage?

    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    Manny's power at this weight has been surprising to me (therein lies the drugs argument)

    not enough drugs on pacs body otherwise he wouldve won via KO. peds can make you better against anyone provided the opponent is clean. so whether you have a granite chin you will go down against a boxer who is juiced up.


    one more thing tyson can open up a guard by simply punching the opponents glove out of the way.

    so pac took too little juice cause he wasnt able to move clots gloves at all.
    Last edited by mnmc10; 03-15-2010 at 06:45 AM.

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    Default Re: Clottey said Pacquiao doesn't hit hard then why he's reluctant to engage?

    Clearly he only fought Clottey in order to see whether he could retain his power without all the juice, like a trial run before he could agree to the blood testing against Floyd. Now the fight won't get made because he can't, it's obvious

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    Default Re: Clottey said Pacquiao doesn't hit hard then why he's reluctant to engage?

    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Clearly he only fought Clottey in order to see whether he could retain his power without all the juice, like a trial run before he could agree to the blood testing against Floyd. Now the fight won't get made because he can't, it's obvious
    yeah he cant, he was really gasping for air and extremely tired! maybe god was the reason why he was able to throw more than a thousand punches.

    from the very start i knew he wasnt as juiced as normal. heck he even smiled less during the ring entrance.

    or maybe clot is on some stronger voodoo juice? stronger than the meth that we have here in the philippines? cause the only way not to get KOd by a juiced boxer is if you took double the amount.

    or maybe pac was weakened cause he recently got a new tat on his arm?
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    Default Re: Clottey said Pacquiao doesn't hit hard then why he's reluctant to engage?

    Joshua had his chance and blew it. He showed he could take Pacs power but didnt do anything about it. Reminded me of Mcullough against Nas. He took his shots but what next? Pac will be beaten when a guy takes his shots and punches back. Floyd and Shane spring to mind but a limited guy like Clottey had no chance when he wasnt letting his hands go. He would have made any fighter look good that night with those tactics. Disapointed in him but Im sure he will come again cuz he is a gatekeeper.

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    Default Re: Clottey said Pacquiao doesn't hit hard then why he's reluctant to engage?

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Joshua had his chance and blew it. He showed he could take Pacs power but didnt do anything about it. Reminded me of Mcullough against Nas. He took his shots but what next? Pac will be beaten when a guy takes his shots and punches back. Floyd and Shane spring to mind but a limited guy like Clottey had no chance when he wasnt letting his hands go. He would have made any fighter look good that night with those tactics. Disapointed in him but Im sure he will come again cuz he is a gatekeeper.

    I gotta disagree with that

    Clottey knew the instant he attempted engage he simply couldnt handle pacquiaos speed and movement and simply chose to spend 12rounds not taking too many risks and hoping for pacquiao to make a mistake

    He now has on his record that he went 12rounds with pacquiao in the middle weights, something no man has yet done
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    Default Re: Clottey said Pacquiao doesn't hit hard then why he's reluctant to engage?

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Joshua had his chance and blew it. He showed he could take Pacs power but didnt do anything about it. Reminded me of Mcullough against Nas. He took his shots but what next? Pac will be beaten when a guy takes his shots and punches back. Floyd and Shane spring to mind but a limited guy like Clottey had no chance when he wasnt letting his hands go. He would have made any fighter look good that night with those tactics. Disapointed in him but Im sure he will come again cuz he is a gatekeeper.

    I gotta disagree with that

    Clottey knew the instant he attempted engage he simply couldnt handle pacquiaos speed and movement and simply chose to spend 12rounds not taking too many risks and hoping for pacquiao to make a mistake

    He now has on his record that he went 12rounds with pacquiao in the middle weights, something no man has yet done
    Yeah I agree he chose not to take too many risks but what Im saying is that its a pretty poor attempt to fight a smaller guy whos moving up in weight and spend 12 rounds in survivial mode. He should have tried to test Pac abit. Pacquiaos been knocked out before and although he's improved alot since then, its isnt proven thats its because of performance enhancing drugs. Pacs still human so Josh should have gone for it instead of saying after the fight that Pac doesnt hit hard cuz it makes him look more stupid.

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    Default Re: Clottey said Pacquiao doesn't hit hard then why he's reluctant to engage?

    Here's the thing.We would not be talking about steroids if weren't for the mayweather's.Any time a fighter come along and runs throught the opposition everyone starts screaming foul.Clottey has never been knoced out.He's never been down.I wasn't looking for manny to knock him I was looking for fight to go to the score cards.It just amazes me that even after this clottey fight and manny passing the drug tests that people would still be making steroid allegations.Manny is by far the pound for pound of this decade.I think that Floyd should welcome the challenge of facing a fighter who is as good as he is if not better.The Floyd followers should want to see their fighter have to elevate his game to another level and show us how he good he really is.As manny's trainer said in the ring after the fight that"Flod needs to let the boxing commission do their job and come and fight them".

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