Mayweather vs Pacquiao Resumes

[skel1983]

Thanks Bilbo, it was actually the question I asked you in the Manny Pacquiao is Unbelievable thread that inspired me to do this one.

Mannys win over Barrera in 2003 is much bigger win imo.

cotto beat mosley

How the hell would mayweather beating mosley exceed pacquiao beating cotto

I think the excuse Cotto has not been the same since the Margarito fight has some significance when talking about that fight, Floyd beating Mosley and Pac beating Cotto are quite even in terms of which is the better win.

[HattonTheHammer]

Mannys win over Barrera in 2003 is much bigger win imo.

cotto beat mosley

How the hell would mayweather beating mosley exceed pacquiao beating cotto

I think the excuse Cotto has not been the same since the Margarito fight has some significance when talking about that fight, Floyd beating Mosley and Pac beating Cotto are quite even in terms of which is the better win.

He got beat by a very good fighter who just so happened to be wearing plaster cast

Cotto came back by tearing through jennings (hardly an acheivement i know) and taking a decision over a very durable clottey

Im really getting sick to death of everyone claiming pacquiao beat shot fighters. Hatton and cotto were by no means shot

[BIG H]

cotto beat mosley

How the hell would mayweather beating mosley exceed pacquiao beating cotto

I think the excuse Cotto has not been the same since the Margarito fight has some significance when talking about that fight, Floyd beating Mosley and Pac beating Cotto are quite even in terms of which is the better win.

He got beat by a very good fighter who just so happened to be wearing plaster cast

Cotto came back by tearing through jennings (hardly an acheivement i know) and taking a decision over a very durable clottey

Im really getting sick to death of everyone claiming pacquiao beat shot fighters. Hatton and cotto were by no means shot

Hatton was close to shot, but I don't think that would've made any difference to the outcome, he just might've gone a few more rounds.

The Cotto of 3 or 4 years earlier would've tested Pac a lot more imo

[HattonTheHammer]

I think the excuse Cotto has not been the same since the Margarito fight has some significance when talking about that fight, Floyd beating Mosley and Pac beating Cotto are quite even in terms of which is the better win.

He got beat by a very good fighter who just so happened to be wearing plaster cast

Cotto came back by tearing through jennings (hardly an acheivement i know) and taking a decision over a very durable clottey

Im really getting sick to death of everyone claiming pacquiao beat shot fighters. Hatton and cotto were by no means shot

Hatton was close to shot, but I don't think that would've made any difference to the outcome, he just might've gone a few more rounds.

The Cotto of 3 or 4 years earlier would've tested Pac a lot more imo

im just about gay for hatton but even i would tell you the hatton that beat tszyu would still of got banged out by pacquiao in the manner that he did

Same thing with cotto, the very man who fought mosley, judah. torres etc would still of get annihilated in with pacquiao

The guys superhuman, a complete freak of nature who punches like a middleweight and throws them like a lightweight

[skel1983]

cotto beat mosley

How the hell would mayweather beating mosley exceed pacquiao beating cotto

I think the excuse Cotto has not been the same since the Margarito fight has some significance when talking about that fight, Floyd beating Mosley and Pac beating Cotto are quite even in terms of which is the better win.

He got beat by a very good fighter who just so happened to be wearing plaster cast

Cotto came back by tearing through jennings (hardly an acheivement i know) and taking a decision over a very durable clottey

Im really getting sick to death of everyone claiming pacquiao beat shot fighters. Hatton and cotto were by no means shot

Come on mate Jennings lol but Pac's resume is alot better imo. I like the way Morales was shot in the second fight even though he was the betting favourite going in? Hatton had already been beaton by Mayweather but that was at 147, in a division Hatton had already looked out of his depth against a B standard fighter in Collazo, where as Pac destroyed him in two rounds in a division he was unbeaton in and the lineal champ for just under 4 years, but then you could say the Dela Hoyas win was much more impressive when Floyd beat him.

Overall i am not bashing Floyd but it is hard not to pick holes when you have Majesty making threads/posts about Mayweather every ten minutes the guy couldn't give a impartial opinion if you paid him a million dollers.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

cotto beat mosley How the hell would mayweather beating mosley exceed pacquiao beating cotto

I've said it before and I'll say it again.... I strongly believe that if Mosley had taken an immediate rematch (or a rematch at any point) he would of faired much better. (As he always does, I might add)

Mosley showed that if your tough and can put pressure on Cotto, he wilts. Yes Cotto moved beautifully in retreat but he was wilting, as his successive fights proved.

Mosley is a better fighter than Cotto... Always has been.

Therefore if Mayweather beats Mosley convincingly, it has to be regarded as the biggest scalp for either fighter.

[miron_lang]

cotto beat mosley How the hell would mayweather beating mosley exceed pacquiao beating cotto

I've said it before and I'll say it again.... I strongly believe that if Mosley had taken an immediate rematch (or a rematch at any point) he would of faired much better. (As he always does, I might add)

Mosley showed that if your tough and can put pressure on Cotto, he wilts. Yes Cotto moved beautifully in retreat but he was wilting, as his successive fights proved.

Mosley is a better fighter than Cotto... Always has been.

Therefore if Mayweather beats Mosley convincingly, it has to be regarded as the biggest scalp for either fighter.

29 yr. old Marco Antonio Barrera > 38 yr. old Mosley

[mnmc10]

the post of majesty actually made me realize that pac has a slightly better resume.

[miron_lang]

Pacquiao clearly has the better Resume. Its very hard to determine if we concentrate on subjectivity. Each fighter can be downplayed. coming off a loss moving up in weight blah blah and it can be done on both fighters resume. We better skip that and just look at the numbers and the fighters.

Here we can compare their championship runs and some of their notable fights.

Manny Pacquiao
112 - Sasakul ( Lineal ) WBC
122 - Ledwabba IBF
126 - Barrera ( Lineal ) Ring
130 - Marquez ( Lineal Ring, WBC
135 - Diaz WBC
140 - Hatton ( Lineal ) Ring
147 - Cotto WBO

Other notable wins : Oscar DelaHoya, Erik Morales, Oscar Larios, Joshua Clottey

Floyd Mayweather
130 - Genaro Hernandez (Lineal) WBC
135 - Jose Luis Castillo WBC
140 - Arturo Gatti WBC
147 - Carlos Baldomir ( Lineal ) WBC
154 - Oscar Dela Hoya WBC

Other notable wins : Diego Corrales, Zab Judah, Jesus Chavez, Goyo vargas



MAB Tops anybody on Floyds resume including 38 yr.old Mosley(If Floyd wins).

Sasakul is a better win than Genaro
Barrera is a better win than Jose Luis Castillo
Juan Manuel Marquez is a better win than Arturo Gatti
Ricky Hatton is a better win than Carlos Baldomir
Miguel Cotto is at worse just as good a win againts Oscar DelaHoya

[Caine3078]

Pacquiao clearly has the better Resume. Its very hard to determine if we concentrate on subjectivity. Each fighter can be downplayed. coming off a loss moving up in weight blah blah and it can be done on both fighters resume. We better skip that and just look at the numbers and the fighters.

Here we can compare their championship runs and some of their notable fights.

Manny Pacquiao
112 - Sasakul ( Lineal ) WBC
122 - Ledwabba IBF
126 - Barrera ( Lineal ) Ring
130 - Marquez ( Lineal Ring, WBC
135 - Diaz WBC
140 - Hatton ( Lineal ) Ring
147 - Cotto WBO

Other notable wins : Oscar DelaHoya, Erik Morales, Oscar Larios, Joshua Clottey

Floyd Mayweather
130 - Genaro Hernandez (Lineal) WBC
135 - Jose Luis Castillo WBC
140 - Arturo Gatti WBC
147 - Carlos Baldomir ( Lineal ) WBC
154 - Oscar Dela Hoya WBC

Other notable wins : Diego Corrales, Zab Judah, Jesus Chavez, Goyo vargas



MAB Tops anybody on Floyds resume including 38 yr.old Mosley(If Floyd wins).

Sasakul is a better win than Genaro
Barrera is a better win than Jose Luis Castillo
Juan Manuel Marquez is a better win than Arturo Gatti
Ricky Hatton is a better win than Carlos Baldomir
Miguel Cotto is at worse just as good a win againts Oscar DelaHoya

Your logic is a bit flawed in my opinion. You say JMM is a better win than Gatti but the Gatti win was not controversial it was a clear win and when Floyd fought JMM it was again a CLEAR win.

You say Ricky Hatton is a better win than Baldomir but Floyd had already beaten Hatton.

I don't understand people saying Sasakul was a better win then Genaro when Pac fought him he had only 3 fights outside of Thailand. Sure he was a lineal champ but in a VERY WEAK division.

All this who is the better win stuff is debatable.

[miron_lang]

Pacquiao clearly has the better Resume. Its very hard to determine if we concentrate on subjectivity. Each fighter can be downplayed. coming off a loss moving up in weight blah blah and it can be done on both fighters resume. We better skip that and just look at the numbers and the fighters.

Here we can compare their championship runs and some of their notable fights.

Manny Pacquiao
112 - Sasakul ( Lineal ) WBC
122 - Ledwabba IBF
126 - Barrera ( Lineal ) Ring
130 - Marquez ( Lineal Ring, WBC
135 - Diaz WBC
140 - Hatton ( Lineal ) Ring
147 - Cotto WBO

Other notable wins : Oscar DelaHoya, Erik Morales, Oscar Larios, Joshua Clottey

Floyd Mayweather
130 - Genaro Hernandez (Lineal) WBC
135 - Jose Luis Castillo WBC
140 - Arturo Gatti WBC
147 - Carlos Baldomir ( Lineal ) WBC
154 - Oscar Dela Hoya WBC

Other notable wins : Diego Corrales, Zab Judah, Jesus Chavez, Goyo vargas



MAB Tops anybody on Floyds resume including 38 yr.old Mosley(If Floyd wins).

Sasakul is a better win than Genaro
Barrera is a better win than Jose Luis Castillo
Juan Manuel Marquez is a better win than Arturo Gatti
Ricky Hatton is a better win than Carlos Baldomir
Miguel Cotto is at worse just as good a win againts Oscar DelaHoya

Your logic is a bit flawed in my opinion. You say JMM is a better win than Gatti but the Gatti win was not controversial it was a clear win and when Floyd fought JMM it was again a CLEAR win.

You say Ricky Hatton is a better win than Baldomir but Floyd had already beaten Hatton.

I don't understand people saying Sasakul was a better win then Genaro when Pac fought him he had only 3 fights outside of Thailand. Sure he was a lineal champ but in a VERY WEAK division.

All this who is the better win stuff is debatable.

I agree its debatable.

Yes JMM fight was close and disputable but its still a win. and by comparison Gatti was never in the level of Marquez. Yes he's exciting and comes to fight but if you would look at both fighter a Narrow victory over a 130 lb Marquez is so many times better than a dominating win over Arturo Gatti ( RIP) My opinion of course. DO you think JMM and Gatti are even comparable?


It's irritating to go back on this but please be reminded that Hatton was a bit competive againts Floyd at 147lbs where not so long before the fight Hatton appeared not 'optimized' for Welterweights againts Collazo. Pacquiao Kayoed Hatton at 140. A Division Hatton has 0 loss and is the lineal Champion by way of Kostya Tzsyu.


Sasakul is a great Champion(Lineal) and i assume you didnt see the fight. Please watch and compare it to the 32 yr old about to retire Genaro Hernandez.

[generalbulldog]

Pacquiao clearly has the better Resume. Its very hard to determine if we concentrate on subjectivity. Each fighter can be downplayed. coming off a loss moving up in weight blah blah and it can be done on both fighters resume. We better skip that and just look at the numbers and the fighters.

Here we can compare their championship runs and some of their notable fights.

Manny Pacquiao
112 - Sasakul ( Lineal ) WBC
122 - Ledwabba IBF
126 - Barrera ( Lineal ) Ring
130 - Marquez ( Lineal Ring, WBC
135 - Diaz WBC
140 - Hatton ( Lineal ) Ring
147 - Cotto WBO

Other notable wins : Oscar DelaHoya, Erik Morales, Oscar Larios, Joshua Clottey

Floyd Mayweather
130 - Genaro Hernandez (Lineal) WBC
135 - Jose Luis Castillo WBC
140 - Arturo Gatti WBC
147 - Carlos Baldomir ( Lineal ) WBC
154 - Oscar Dela Hoya WBC

Other notable wins : Diego Corrales, Zab Judah, Jesus Chavez, Goyo vargas



MAB Tops anybody on Floyds resume including 38 yr.old Mosley(If Floyd wins).

Sasakul is a better win than Genaro
Barrera is a better win than Jose Luis Castillo
Juan Manuel Marquez is a better win than Arturo Gatti
Ricky Hatton is a better win than Carlos Baldomir
Miguel Cotto is at worse just as good a win againts Oscar DelaHoya

I don't understand people saying Sasakul was a better win then Genaro when Pac fought him he had only 3 fights outside of Thailand. Sure he was a lineal champ but in a VERY WEAK division.

Sasakul was not only the lineal champ and Pac beat him for his 1st title but he did it at 19 years old. To become lineal champ at 19 and be considered the man at the division is an extraordinary achievement. That is ultra rare in boxing to do something like that in your teenage years especially given Pacquiao had almost no amateur background and was fighting a physically mature man.

I guarantee you can't even name 5 lineal champions in boxing history that were teenagers.