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Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
It's a complete fallacy that jones put on 19lbs...

Look at him in his last few fights at Light Heavy... no way was he walking around at 175.

Of course he did put on some mass but a lot of the weight gain would have came from the fact that he didn't have to cut and boil down in camp this time out.

From something he stopped doing, not something he did.
Mate, I said from his last bout. he was 174 againts Woods. and there's no debate about him roiding. He had a history of roiding officially.

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Ethics of Jone's testings etc aside 5,10,15lbs or what ever on a short man is not the same as on a tall man. Will leave the debates about testing etc for others but talking about weight is largely irelevant.

How much did you put on over the few weeks of Christmas? Performance is the issue here.
Fine mate lets forget about weight.

Performance? Are you more impressed with Pacquiao than how Roy performed?

With that question. Are thinking these athletes are not capable of performing great feats? You think what Pac has done is more "Unbelievable" than Winning 126, 135 and 147 simultaneously as what Armstrong did? or you also think Armstrong is questionable because of that?
By using that logic you could say Bernard Hopkins was also on Steroids for the Tarver fight as he went from weighing in low at middleweight to being a fully muscled Light Heavyweight. Wanna try to bring that up too?