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    Default Re: Eubank calling out America's Best in '93

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Im pretty sure iv read that Eubank dropped Graham in sparring but like you say, he may have been made to feel a fool for the rest of the session.

    Eubank was scheduled to fight Toney in a cruiserweight minor title fight about 8 years ago and a few weeks in to Eubanks training camp toney pulls out!!

    Take a look at Eubanks record, how many defences he made in a year! Its astonishing, all went the distance and he travelled the world for them as well!!

    Eubank, I would give as good a chance as anyone with any of the supermiddle greats.

    When he fought Calzaghe he was due to fight at light heavy and with a weeks notice, dropped to supermiddle,(so probably had near on 10 pounds to lose in a week!) to take the chance against Joe, he had nothing in the tank but hyad the fight been a minute longer he could well have stopped Calzaghe who was out on his feet at the bell!
    Eubank nearly got as many gifts as Sven Ottke.

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    Default Re: Eubank calling out America's Best in '93

    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Im pretty sure iv read that Eubank dropped Graham in sparring but like you say, he may have been made to feel a fool for the rest of the session.

    Eubank was scheduled to fight Toney in a cruiserweight minor title fight about 8 years ago and a few weeks in to Eubanks training camp toney pulls out!!

    Take a look at Eubanks record, how many defences he made in a year! Its astonishing, all went the distance and he travelled the world for them as well!!

    Eubank, I would give as good a chance as anyone with any of the supermiddle greats.

    When he fought Calzaghe he was due to fight at light heavy and with a weeks notice, dropped to supermiddle,(so probably had near on 10 pounds to lose in a week!) to take the chance against Joe, he had nothing in the tank but hyad the fight been a minute longer he could well have stopped Calzaghe who was out on his feet at the bell!
    Eubank nearly got as many gifts as Sven Ottke.

    thats a bit OTT, comparing anyone with sven ottke is harsh

    He was never in the picture to fight a barkley, toney etc. Not his fault america just didnt take our super middles seriously

    He beat benn and watson who were both world class fighters at the time he did that. He also stopped sensational dan sherry
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    Default Re: Eubank calling out America's Best in '93

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Im pretty sure iv read that Eubank dropped Graham in sparring but like you say, he may have been made to feel a fool for the rest of the session.

    Eubank was scheduled to fight Toney in a cruiserweight minor title fight about 8 years ago and a few weeks in to Eubanks training camp toney pulls out!!

    Take a look at Eubanks record, how many defences he made in a year! Its astonishing, all went the distance and he travelled the world for them as well!!

    Eubank, I would give as good a chance as anyone with any of the supermiddle greats.

    When he fought Calzaghe he was due to fight at light heavy and with a weeks notice, dropped to supermiddle,(so probably had near on 10 pounds to lose in a week!) to take the chance against Joe, he had nothing in the tank but hyad the fight been a minute longer he could well have stopped Calzaghe who was out on his feet at the bell!
    Eubank nearly got as many gifts as Sven Ottke.

    thats a bit OTT, comparing anyone with sven ottke is harsh

    He was never in the picture to fight a barkley, toney etc. Not his fault america just didnt take our super middles seriously

    He beat benn and watson who were both world class fighters at the time he did that. He also stopped sensational dan sherry

    Not really Eubank v Schommer was one of the worst decisions you will ever see. Add to that the Amaral was a shocker he should of lost, then you have the Watson, Benn which alot of people had Eubank loosing. Then the Rocchigiani fight the list is endless. But then a lot of people had Eubank winning the first Collins fight.


    Put it this way if Eubank was about today he would be listed as one of the most protected fighters from the Uk, some of his defences make Calzaghes look amazing.

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    Default Re: Eubank calling out America's Best in '93

    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post

    Eubank nearly got as many gifts as Sven Ottke.

    thats a bit OTT, comparing anyone with sven ottke is harsh

    He was never in the picture to fight a barkley, toney etc. Not his fault america just didnt take our super middles seriously

    He beat benn and watson who were both world class fighters at the time he did that. He also stopped sensational dan sherry

    Not really Eubank v Schommer was one of the worst decisions you will ever see. Add to that the Amaral was a shocker he should of lost, then you have the Watson, Benn which alot of people had Eubank loosing. Then the Rocchigiani fight the list is endless. But then a lot of people had Eubank winning the first Collins fight.


    Put it this way if Eubank was about today he would be listed as one of the most protected fighters from the Uk, some of his defences make Calzaghes look amazing.
    I agree, Eubank had a lot of mediocre defences and against people he shouldn't really have bothered fighting. There is more to a career than just fighting mandatories. Eubank had skills, but often seemed to coast in his career and in a lot of rounds too.

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    Default Re: Eubank calling out America's Best in '93

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
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    thats a bit OTT, comparing anyone with sven ottke is harsh

    He was never in the picture to fight a barkley, toney etc. Not his fault america just didnt take our super middles seriously

    He beat benn and watson who were both world class fighters at the time he did that. He also stopped sensational dan sherry

    Not really Eubank v Schommer was one of the worst decisions you will ever see. Add to that the Amaral was a shocker he should of lost, then you have the Watson, Benn which alot of people had Eubank loosing. Then the Rocchigiani fight the list is endless. But then a lot of people had Eubank winning the first Collins fight.


    Put it this way if Eubank was about today he would be listed as one of the most protected fighters from the Uk, some of his defences make Calzaghes look amazing.
    I agree, Eubank had a lot of mediocre defences and against people he shouldn't really have bothered fighting. There is more to a career than just fighting mandatories. Eubank had skills, but often seemed to coast in his career and in a lot of rounds too.
    Yes it's a difficult one really, what do you do stay home fight bum after for bum for 6-9 figure pay days, or go to the States and risk fighting the big boys for less money. Eubank Toney would of been a good fight I think Toney beats him though.

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    Default Re: Eubank calling out America's Best in '93

    I think Eubank fought to the level of his opponent a lot.
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    Default Re: Eubank calling out America's Best in '93

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    I think Eubank fought to the level of his opponent a lot.
    Absolutely! After the 2nd Watson fight we all know he held back and only did the bare minimum to win. The Eubank that fought Benn in their first fight was hingry and desperate to win, that version died the night Watson was tragically injured.

    Having said that, Toney, Nunn, McCallum all beat Eubank IMO
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    Default Re: Eubank calling out America's Best in '93

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
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    thats a bit OTT, comparing anyone with sven ottke is harsh

    He was never in the picture to fight a barkley, toney etc. Not his fault america just didnt take our super middles seriously

    He beat benn and watson who were both world class fighters at the time he did that. He also stopped sensational dan sherry

    Not really Eubank v Schommer was one of the worst decisions you will ever see. Add to that the Amaral was a shocker he should of lost, then you have the Watson, Benn which alot of people had Eubank loosing. Then the Rocchigiani fight the list is endless. But then a lot of people had Eubank winning the first Collins fight.


    Put it this way if Eubank was about today he would be listed as one of the most protected fighters from the Uk, some of his defences make Calzaghes look amazing.
    I agree, Eubank had a lot of mediocre defences and against people he shouldn't really have bothered fighting. There is more to a career than just fighting mandatories. Eubank had skills, but often seemed to coast in his career and in a lot of rounds too.
    This is true but I don't think Eubank saw it like that. I might get slaughtered for this but I think Eubank saw fighting his mandatories as honourable. He took it as his duty to fight the guy that he was duty bound to fight. That might sound strange but then Eubank himself is a little strange.

    He himself has said that he is not sure that he could have beaten the Jones Jnrs and Toneys so in his logic why should he go looking for them? But he has said, and I believe him, that if they became his mandatories he would have fought them without complaint. I personally don't agree with his attitude but I don't think he took the stance for cowardly reasons.
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    Default Re: Eubank calling out America's Best in '93

    Couldn't stand him when I first saw him over here but underneath all of the bravado and runway swagger he had skills.That said I dont think he would have ever gotten Toney in the ring or beat him if he did.Toney was peak in that Dewitt-Barkley span and went on a tear of activity afterwards...9,10 fights within barely over a years time.HBO was pulling the purse strings...shocker I know....and Eubank had very little stateside appeal.

    Not sure about Nunn...and was never ha.Thought that win over Cordoba was a gift and he seemed as less interested in the ring at times as Eubank himself.Chris got caught up in the enigma,showmanship alot rather that getting down to the task at hand...which led to all of the close calls.Personnaly I thought he lost to Close,Thorton,Watson,Benn 2,and those are the ones I actually saw.

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    Default Re: Eubank calling out America's Best in '93

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Couldn't stand him when I first saw him over here but underneath all of the bravado and runway swagger he had skills.That said I dont think he would have ever gotten Toney in the ring or beat him if he did.Toney was peak in that Dewitt-Barkley span and went on a tear of activity afterwards...9,10 fights within barely over a years time.HBO was pulling the purse strings...shocker I know....and Eubank had very little stateside appeal.

    Not sure about Nunn...and was never ha.Thought that win over Cordoba was a gift and he seemed as less interested in the ring at times as Eubank himself.Chris got caught up in the enigma,showmanship alot rather that getting down to the task at hand...which led to all of the close calls.Personnaly I thought he lost to Close,Thorton,Watson,Benn 2,and those are the ones I actually saw.
    He got a gift against Sugar Boy Malinga too. Don't see him beating Toney or Nunn and I think he was just quite happy to fight mandatories. He had a £10 million 10 fight deal with Sky and he only had to fight mandatories or top ten guys so he took the easy lolly.

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