Dominance! (There will be spoilers about Wlad-Chambers)

[ninjaspy3]

I noticed one thing though about Wlad

And you can witness this for yourselves if you look back at the klitschko vs chagaev fight videos.

When ever Chagaev would charge forward, Klitschko would take a little hop back...or occassionally to the side.

But what I really found interesting is, when Chagaev did get in close, Klitschko held him.

Now in many boxing matches, when 2 fighters get in a clinch, the ref gives them a chance or a little time to work themselves out of the clinch. -but- in Klitschkos fight, the ref came in and seperated the fighters almost every time, as quickly as he could.

Now you may say, "So what?"

On the inside, the smaller fighter has his best chance... that is while he is not tied up by Klitschko But if the ref comes every single time and instantly seperates them..... the small fighter has to work to get in close yet again...

and again...

and again...

only to get tied up, and seperated.

Now Im sorry and dont mean to hate but uh.... that sucks for the small fighter. Thats just a waste of energy to get on the inside only to have next to no chance to capitalize on it.

Anyone else see it the way I do?

[DaxxKahn]

I noticed one thing though about Wlad

And you can witness this for yourselves if you look back at the klitschko vs chagaev fight videos.

When ever Chagaev would charge forward, Klitschko would take a little hop back...or occassionally to the side.

But what I really found interesting is, when Chagaev did get in close, Klitschko held him.

Now in many boxing matches, when 2 fighters get in a clinch, the ref gives them a chance or a little time to work themselves out of the clinch. -but- in Klitschkos fight, the ref came in and seperated the fighters almost every time, as quickly as he could.

Now you may say, "So what?"

On the inside, the smaller fighter has his best chance... that is while he is not tied up by Klitschko But if the ref comes every single time and instantly seperates them..... the small fighter has to work to get in close yet again...

and again...

and again...

only to get tied up, and seperated.

Now Im sorry and dont mean to hate but uh.... that sucks for the small fighter. Thats just a waste of energy to get on the inside only to have next to no chance to capitalize on it.

Anyone else see it the way I do?

NO

[ninjaspy3]

I noticed one thing though about Wlad

And you can witness this for yourselves if you look back at the klitschko vs chagaev fight videos.

When ever Chagaev would charge forward, Klitschko would take a little hop back...or occassionally to the side.

But what I really found interesting is, when Chagaev did get in close, Klitschko held him.

Now in many boxing matches, when 2 fighters get in a clinch, the ref gives them a chance or a little time to work themselves out of the clinch. -but- in Klitschkos fight, the ref came in and seperated the fighters almost every time, as quickly as he could.

Now you may say, "So what?"

On the inside, the smaller fighter has his best chance... that is while he is not tied up by Klitschko But if the ref comes every single time and instantly seperates them..... the small fighter has to work to get in close yet again...

and again...

and again...

only to get tied up, and seperated.

Now Im sorry and dont mean to hate but uh.... that sucks for the small fighter. Thats just a waste of energy to get on the inside only to have next to no chance to capitalize on it.

Anyone else see it the way I do?

NO

Well, you obviously dont. Care to explain?

[DaxxKahn]

I noticed one thing though about Wlad

And you can witness this for yourselves if you look back at the klitschko vs chagaev fight videos.

When ever Chagaev would charge forward, Klitschko would take a little hop back...or occassionally to the side.

But what I really found interesting is, when Chagaev did get in close, Klitschko held him.

Now in many boxing matches, when 2 fighters get in a clinch, the ref gives them a chance or a little time to work themselves out of the clinch. -but- in Klitschkos fight, the ref came in and seperated the fighters almost every time, as quickly as he could.

Now you may say, "So what?"

On the inside, the smaller fighter has his best chance... that is while he is not tied up by Klitschko But if the ref comes every single time and instantly seperates them..... the small fighter has to work to get in close yet again...

and again...

and again...

only to get tied up, and seperated.

Now Im sorry and dont mean to hate but uh.... that sucks for the small fighter. Thats just a waste of energy to get on the inside only to have next to no chance to capitalize on it.

Anyone else see it the way I do?

NO

Well, you obviously dont. Care to explain?

I already explained everything to Ninja Spies 1 and 2

[ninjaspy3]

NO

Well, you obviously dont. Care to explain?

I already explained everything to Ninja Spies 1 and 2

Ok, I got it. ;-) Any other takers?

[ninjaspy3]

I noticed one thing though about Wlad

And you can witness this for yourselves if you look back at the klitschko vs chagaev fight videos.

When ever Chagaev would charge forward, Klitschko would take a little hop back...or occassionally to the side.

But what I really found interesting is, when Chagaev did get in close, Klitschko held him.

Now in many boxing matches, when 2 fighters get in a clinch, the ref gives them a chance or a little time to work themselves out of the clinch. -but- in Klitschkos fight, the ref came in and seperated the fighters almost every time, as quickly as he could.

Now you may say, "So what?"

On the inside, the smaller fighter has his best chance... that is while he is not tied up by Klitschko But if the ref comes every single time and instantly seperates them..... the small fighter has to work to get in close yet again...

and again...

and again...

only to get tied up, and seperated.

Now Im sorry and dont mean to hate but uh.... that sucks for the small fighter. Thats just a waste of energy to get on the inside only to have next to no chance to capitalize on it.

Anyone else see it the way I do?

NO

Examples:

0:43
1:03
YouTube - Klitschko vs Chagaev round 1


rnd 2
0:10
YouTube - Klitschko vs Chagaev round 2

Rnd 5
1:40 - wtf??
YouTube - Klitschko vs Chagaev round 5

Round 6
1:34
1:52
2:20
YouTube - Klitschko vs Chagaev round 6

[DaxxKahn]

Well holding is not against the rules...Though ,makes for boring fights but look at the videos...For example in the first at abt 40 seconds in...Wlad had him all tangled up Chagaev was not going to punch his way out of it...Why allow time to just mangle each other...I could see if there was some chance for some work to be done but more or less it is a struggle to get out of a sleeping bag not close quarter in fighting

[Rantcatrat]

Well holding is not against the rules...Though ,makes for boring fights but look at the videos...For example in the first at abt 40 seconds in...Wlad had him all tangled up Chagaev was not going to punch his way out of it...Why allow time to just mangle each other...I could see if there was some chance for some work to be done but more or less it is a struggle to get out of a sleeping bag not close quarter in fighting

Holding isn't against the rules. And it's not like VLad's opponents and their expensive trainser don't know Vlad holds. That they haven't figured a way to counteract his holding is more testament to his ability. That said, I'm not a fan of holding at all. I hate when Bernard does it and I hate when Vlad does it.

[Pugilistic]

Well holding is not against the rules...Though ,makes for boring fights but look at the videos...For example in the first at abt 40 seconds in...Wlad had him all tangled up Chagaev was not going to punch his way out of it...Why allow time to just mangle each other...I could see if there was some chance for some work to be done but more or less it is a struggle to get out of a sleeping bag not close quarter in fighting

Holding isn't against the rules. And it's not like VLad's opponents and their expensive trainser don't know Vlad holds. That they haven't figured a way to counteract his holding is more testament to his ability. That said, I'm not a fan of holding at all. I hate when Bernard does it and I hate when Vlad does it.

Bernard only started constant holding once he reached his late 30's where he had to change up his style to suit his declining physical attributes.

[DaxxKahn]

Well holding is not against the rules...Though ,makes for boring fights but look at the videos...For example in the first at abt 40 seconds in...Wlad had him all tangled up Chagaev was not going to punch his way out of it...Why allow time to just mangle each other...I could see if there was some chance for some work to be done but more or less it is a struggle to get out of a sleeping bag not close quarter in fighting

Holding isn't against the rules. And it's not like VLad's opponents and their expensive trainser don't know Vlad holds. That they haven't figured a way to counteract his holding is more testament to his ability. That said, I'm not a fan of holding at all. I hate when Bernard does it and I hate when Vlad does it.

Well never said I was a fan either nor do I know many fans who are...I mean if that was the case John Ruiz would be PPV headliner

Just was stating that was not like Wlad was doing anything wrong nor was the ref showing favoritism not letting the smaller man wk..Like you said it is part of his style shows his ability to keep his man from getting anything accomplished inside