Pacquiao "I don't need Mayweather"

[ElTerribleMorales]

What were the list of demands Pacquaio made?

don't have a link but off the top of my head, $25 million upfront, $10 million each pound over the 147 limit, gloves, and that's all i can remember

[OumaFan]

well they each demanded at the least 50-50 and that was worked out so financially its hard to say one guy made demands, they both did and it was worked out.

Manny made a gloves demand (I guess, I wasn't keeping up with it at the time) and Mayweather dictated where the fight was going to be by refusing to fight in Dallas, presumably so he could use his hand medicine in Las Vegas. Or maybe he doesn't like Texas, I don't either.

So they basically made one big demand. Floyd accepted and Manny didn't. Floyd looks better.

[Chino]

What were the list of demands Pacquaio made?

don't have a link but off the top of my head, $25 million upfront, $10 million each pound over the 147 limit, gloves, and that's all i can remember

Even if it was just those three, its 3 compared to just one: the olympic style blood test which BOTH would take. Simple math. Pac makes more than 3 demands, Floyd makes one and even agrees to 50/50 (which is hard to believe). Who is making more demands?

[OumaFan]

LOL at the idea that 50/50 was a Manny "demand." My God. This is why I stayed away from the hell hole that was the Manny/Floyd forum.

[ElTerribleMorales]

LOL at the idea that 50/50 was a Manny "demand." My God. This is why I stayed away from the hell hole that was the Manny/Floyd forum.

agree, nothing but 50/50 split made sense, but he is right that Manny did make more demands than Mayweather

[milmascaras1]

i totally agree with Chino! mayweather jr. has bent over backwards for this fight to happen. it is pacquiao who doesn't seem to want this fight. and as far as someone saying pacquiao never ducked anybody? who the hell are they talking about? he's been ducking the best dangerous fighters on the planet ever since he beat barrera. first of all, he ducked joan guzman when guzman was still a super bantamweight. guzman even agreed to go up to pacquiao's weight class (super feather) but pacquiao kept his mouth shut. then when pacquiao got an absolute gift decision verses marquez and marquez wanted an immediate rematch, pacquiao ran from him and went up to lightweight. when marquez decided to go up to lightweight, what did pacquiao do, he went up in weight again. pacquiao knows he lost to marquez that's why he wanted no part in a third marquez fight. more recently, mosley wanted to fight pacquiao at 140 and pacquiao wouldn't even talk to him. instead, he went for the ultra conservative joshua clottey, who by the way, is an embarrassment to all the great ghana fighters who are truly warriors. and now, pacquiao never really wanted this fight with floyd jr. in the first place. he made those three demands thinking that mayweather jr. wasn't going to agree to them. then when floyd jr. made his lone demand, (blood testing) it was pacquiao's perfect moment to bail out of the fight. simple as that!

[generalbulldog]

i totally agree with Chino! mayweather jr. has bent over backwards for this fight to happen. it is pacquiao who doesn't seem to want this fight. and as far as someone saying pacquiao never ducked anybody? who the hell are they talking about? he's been ducking the best dangerous fighters on the planet ever since he beat barrera. first of all, he ducked joan guzman when guzman was still a super bantamweight. guzman even agreed to go up to pacquiao's weight class (super feather) but pacquiao kept his mouth shut. then when pacquiao got an absolute gift decision verses marquez and marquez wanted an immediate rematch, pacquiao ran from him and went up to lightweight. when marquez decided to go up to lightweight, what did pacquiao do, he went up in weight again. pacquiao knows he lost to marquez that's why he wanted no part in a third marquez fight. more recently, mosley wanted to fight pacquiao at 140 and pacquiao wouldn't even talk to him. instead, he went for the ultra conservative joshua clottey, who by the way, is an embarrassment to all the great ghana fighters who are truly warriors. and now, pacquiao never really wanted this fight with floyd jr. in the first place. he made those three demands thinking that mayweather jr. wasn't going to agree to them. then when floyd jr. made his lone demand, (blood testing) it was pacquiao's perfect moment to bail out of the fight. simple as that!

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[blegit]

i totally agree with Chino! mayweather jr. has bent over backwards for this fight to happen. it is pacquiao who doesn't seem to want this fight. and as far as someone saying pacquiao never ducked anybody? who the hell are they talking about? he's been ducking the best dangerous fighters on the planet ever since he beat barrera. first of all, he ducked joan guzman when guzman was still a super bantamweight. guzman even agreed to go up to pacquiao's weight class (super feather) but pacquiao kept his mouth shut. then when pacquiao got an absolute gift decision verses marquez and marquez wanted an immediate rematch, pacquiao ran from him and went up to lightweight. when marquez decided to go up to lightweight, what did pacquiao do, he went up in weight again. pacquiao knows he lost to marquez that's why he wanted no part in a third marquez fight. more recently, mosley wanted to fight pacquiao at 140 and pacquiao wouldn't even talk to him. instead, he went for the ultra conservative joshua clottey, who by the way, is an embarrassment to all the great ghana fighters who are truly warriors. and now, pacquiao never really wanted this fight with floyd jr. in the first place. he made those three demands thinking that mayweather jr. wasn't going to agree to them. then when floyd jr. made his lone demand, (blood testing) it was pacquiao's perfect moment to bail out of the fight. simple as that!

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I'm not going to go as far to say or agree that Pac has been ducking fighters out of fear. But he has done his share of picking and choosing just as most fighters have in their careers. Pac doesn't pick fights with slick boxers and this is well known. He feasts on guys who are easy to find and have little chance to outbox him. And no matter what Pac apologists say...Pac absolutely avoided Mosley. Mosley agreed to everything Team Pac asked for. They even tried to shoo Mosley away with the "You have to make 143" catchweight. Mosley agreed, went to Roach's gym and still got denied. But I am not mad at any fighter picking and choosing every now and then. Its a hurt sport and business must still be maximized. Pac only does this every now and then so this is easily respectable to me. Just about every fighter has done this. Some just do it more than what can be overlooked.

[Fenster]

$10 million per pound over 147 was a big joke. I can't believe how many people took that seriously. I bet Team Floyd pissed themselves when they heard it, just like Team Pac were pissing themselves when they came up with it.

When has Floyd struggled to make 147?

It was clearly a reaction to Floyd coming in at 146 against Marquez after agreeing to 144. That's 146. A pound under 147.

This is a total non-issue.

[OumaFan]

$10 million per pound over 147 was a big joke. I can't believe how many people took that seriously. I bet Team Floyd pissed themselves when they heard it, just like Team Pac were pissing themselves when they came up with it.

When has Floyd struggled to make 147?

It was clearly a reaction to Floyd coming in at 146 against Marquez after agreeing to 144. That's 146. A pound under 147.

This is a total non-issue.

LOGIC.

I don't know why the anti-Pacquaio brigade can't just stick to the most obvious attack point, that he refused to take the drug test. After all Manny's dictated to other fighters like Cotto so what's the harm in being dictated to a little here, just take the drug test and move on. But all this other shit is getting ridiculously blown out of proportion (shocker), its not as if Manny demanded it be at 145 or demanded 60/40 or anything major. If I remember correctly in some other post Chino complained about Manny dictating the date of the fight, LOL.

[mattboxingfan]

Yeah he does! Idiot!

[blegit]

Yeah he does! Idiot!

Very good breakdown! You're quite the intelligent one

[mnmc10]

im pretty sure pac wont retire, he only said that cause he is now actively running for congress!

[Althugz]

I disagree that he doesn't need Mayweather.

There are question marks against almost all of their big wins/fights in the eyes of both fighters detractors.

This is the only fight in which nobody can say a damn thing about the winner of the fight - They will go down as the fighter of this era with no excuses.

For Pacquiao to say he doesn't need Mayweather or vice versa, both are sorely mistaken.

I think each of them has 1 fighter where nothing can be said to take away from the win - Mayweather has Corales when both were up there in the p4p ranks and Manny has Barrera (1st fight).

The rest of the fights are either controversial wins, people make issues about weight or whether the opponent was in their prime.

There are usually for and against arguements for these opponents (rightfully or wrongfully).

Mayweather vs Pacquiao is the fight to secure one mans legacy as THE BEST - They both have a good legacy now but if they don't fight before the end of their careers, people will argue who THE BEST of this era was forever.

[titleist905t]

I do not defend Manny a lot. Although I am fan, I criticize him as much any other person. But this article is ridiculous and misleading. The translation is stupid and far out of context. MMC did a better job translating the true meaning. But of course, when a person speaks in Filipino it is so different in context and substance when translated in English literally. This is why Manny has been dubbed a "humble" guy from which many Filipinos believe he is not because of the language barrier that we have and how we construct sentences.

In this case, I don't see Manny avoiding Floyd. I see him as I have always seen him. A man clouded by his arrogance and pride. Not because he is avoiding Floyd. Manny will not win the elections and he will continue boxing.