Jaz's Prospect Thread

[killersheep]

It may now seem apparent that Derrick Wilson's upset of Huerta is more the case of him being lucky, and Huerta just plainly being careless.

You should watch his fight from last night against Ochoa, there are some really deceiving things on Wilson's record already.

1. Guadalupe deLeon is much better than his record shows, he has been losing because he has been fighting some of the highest touted American and Mexican prospects as the challenger, he is getting no favors on the cards.

2. His Ochoa fight was a draw. That was absolute BS he was having his was with Ochoa in fact the only round that you could even make an argument for Ochoa winning was the final round.

Wilson is very wild, but he showed more focus and restraint and his reward for showing more discipline? A shady draw decision.

I wouldn't close the door on him yet, he still has a ton of potential, he has reasonable power in both hands and his reaction times are great. A few years of solid training and he could be doing some real damage.

[JazMerkin]

It may now seem apparent that Derrick Wilson's upset of Huerta is more the case of him being lucky, and Huerta just plainly being careless.

You should watch his fight from last night against Ochoa, there are some really deceiving things on Wilson's record already.

1. Guadalupe deLeon is much better than his record shows, he has been losing because he has been fighting some of the highest touted American and Mexican prospects as the challenger, he is getting no favors on the cards.

2. His Ochoa fight was a draw. That was absolute BS he was having his was with Ochoa in fact the only round that you could even make an argument for Ochoa winning was the final round.

Wilson is very wild, but he showed more focus and restraint and his reward for showing more discipline? A shady draw decision.

I wouldn't close the door on him yet, he still has a ton of potential, he has reasonable power in both hands and his reaction times are great. A few years of solid training and he could be doing some real damage.

Agreed on all of that. I think Wilson does end up as a gatekeeper, largely because he's not a big enough prospect to get the breaks you need on the way up, but no way did Ochoa draw that fight. I watched the replay this morning & I couldn't believe it. I agree on DeLeon, I think in fact they should be pushing Wilson into 6 rounders, because I think he would have won or at worst drawn that one had it been 6.

[killersheep]

It may now seem apparent that Derrick Wilson's upset of Huerta is more the case of him being lucky, and Huerta just plainly being careless.

You should watch his fight from last night against Ochoa, there are some really deceiving things on Wilson's record already.

1. Guadalupe deLeon is much better than his record shows, he has been losing because he has been fighting some of the highest touted American and Mexican prospects as the challenger, he is getting no favors on the cards.

2. His Ochoa fight was a draw. That was absolute BS he was having his was with Ochoa in fact the only round that you could even make an argument for Ochoa winning was the final round.

Wilson is very wild, but he showed more focus and restraint and his reward for showing more discipline? A shady draw decision.

I wouldn't close the door on him yet, he still has a ton of potential, he has reasonable power in both hands and his reaction times are great. A few years of solid training and he could be doing some real damage.

Agreed on all of that. I think Wilson does end up as a gatekeeper, largely because he's not a big enough prospect to get the breaks you need on the way up, but no way did Ochoa draw that fight. I watched the replay this morning & I couldn't believe it. I agree on DeLeon, I think in fact they should be pushing Wilson into 6 rounders, because I think he would have won or at worst drawn that one had it been 6.

He could end up being the next generation of Emmanuel Augustus, not in style, but in his role in the boxing world.

[JazMerkin]

I thought I'd bump my old thread to talk about a guy who I've not seen discussed, but who I genuinely feel is a future multi-weight world champ. He's called Thomas Dulorme and he really reminds me of something between a young Tommy Hearns and LW Sugar Shane. He's very tall for a 140lber at 5'10 and has good speed & great power. I think he's Puerto Rican, but he's really something & I can see him taking over this division soon.

I'm more excited about him than I've been in absolutely years. I was hyped on Broner off his technical abilities, but this guy has got all the intangibles. He's apparently facing DeMarcus Corley next in only his 12th fight. Anyway here's some vids & I'd appreciate any more info on this guy from those in PR or who've seen more of him in the US.

[CFH]

Man that kid is fast. He obviously doesn't have the concussive power of Mosley or Hearns, he needs to straighten his punches, and he's a bit too upright for my liking at times (but seriously, what the fuck do I know?), but his handspeed is very impressive.

[JazMerkin]

Man that kid is fast. He obviously doesn't have the concussive power of Mosley or Hearns, he needs to straighten his punches, and he's a bit too upright for my liking at times (but seriously, what the fuck do I know?), but his handspeed is very impressive.

Obviously he won't have the concussive power of certainly Hearns, but he clearly hits very hard, you can see in opponents' eyes when they first get clipped a real look of shock. After his last fight, his opponent Harrison Cuello said he'd never been hit so hard. This is a guy who's been in with a 154lb Vanes Martirosyan, DeMarcus Corley, Breidis Prescott, Victor Cayo & Randall Bailey. He is very quick, but more than his hands, I'm impressed how fluid & fast his movement with his upper body movement for such a tall guy. That's why I disagree on him being too upright, I think for such a tall guy he moves himself really well. As you can tell I'm mad excited about this guy

Rico Ramos & Lateef Kayode are 2 that I think have lot's of potential...

Ramos is very good, I think he's fighting for a world title soon against Shimoda. He's also coming into a relatively 'light' division as Rigondeaux aside, I don't think there's any one else in the top 10 who I wouldn't give him a shot at. All that said, I still feel that he loads up too much on his left hook at times (admittedly it is a great shot he lets off with it) & that his tendency to be overly 'bouncy' could use up too much energy against the upper tier of opponents.

Kayode is brutal, he's bulldozed through everyone he's faced really and he should have a world title pretty soon, especially given that Cunningham is going up to HW.

Sadam Ali
13-0 (7 KO)

I'd seen him on the undercard of Adamek v McBride.
Not the best fighter out there but flashy, confident, exciting, popular and I'm sure he'll find himself involved in big fights soon.

Not completely sold on Ali tbh Jim. He was an excellent amateur, he's beaten some very good opp early in his pro career (see Lenin Arroyo, a quality journeyman), looks to have all the right technical things going on plus he's engaging. Yet for some reason, I've just got this feeling that he's going to suddenly look very out of his depth when he gets in with the top guys. Almost like a new Oba Carr. Watch him become a 1st ballot HoFer now

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

No I agree mate. But I just get the feeling he'll be one of those exciting guys who can take a loss.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Sadam Ali
13-0 (7 KO)

I'd seen him on the undercard of Adamek v McBride.
Not the best fighter out there but flashy, confident, exciting, popular and I'm sure he'll find himself involved in big fights soon.