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    Default Re: Joan Guzman vs Ali Funeka 2 Spoilers.

    He probably deserved the decision, or at least a case could be made that he did. I was so disgusted with him and the ridiculous showboating he did throughout the fight that I lost any real interest in what was probably a very entertaining fight. Guzman is a piece of shit, he acted like a piece of shit from the weigh-in to the end of the fight, and I hope he never gets another big payday. I also hope that Funeka gets to fight for the vacant belt again. He deserves it.

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    Default Re: Joan Guzman vs Ali Funeka 2 Spoilers.

    How in the hell did Funeka lose? He's like a foot taller than Guzman...

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    Default Re: Joan Guzman vs Ali Funeka 2 Spoilers.

    Quote Originally Posted by No Contest View Post
    How in the hell did Funeka lose? He's like a foot taller than Guzman...
    Guzman outboxed him with the gameplan he should have had in the first fight.

    he deserved the nod.

    Him coming in 8 pounds overweight is not erased by it.

    Yes he won, but it's a victory that means nothing right now.

    He needs to retire or move up to 140, or maybe even 147 after tonight.
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    Default Re: Joan Guzman vs Ali Funeka 2 Spoilers.

    Guzman knocked Funeka down and won the fight pretty easily.

    Of course not trying to make weight surely aided him.

    But so did good boxing skills and a good game plan.

    Def wasn't a fair fight though.
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    Default Re: Joan Guzman vs Ali Funeka 2 Spoilers.

    A meaningless win, but that is no slur on Funeka who I really like. I used to like Guzman, but he is now on my loath list.

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    Default Re: Joan Guzman vs Ali Funeka 2 Spoilers.

    Guzman proved that last time he was clearly affected by the busted nose, cuts and inactivity...

    oh yeah and the weight cheating thing helped this time.
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    Default Re: Joan Guzman vs Ali Funeka 2 Spoilers.

    Obviously the weight helped somewhat, but i think it was more due to. Joan Guzman fighting a better fight, he gave Ali Funeka more angles. His upper body movement was better tonight. And he wasn't so flat flooted, which is why Ali Funeka couldn't find the range with his jab, i had Joan Guzman winning by a few rounds. Its good to see Joan Guzman comeback well, i've been a big Joan Guzman fan for ages now.

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    Default Re: Joan Guzman vs Ali Funeka 2 Spoilers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by No Contest View Post
    How in the hell did Funeka lose? He's like a foot taller than Guzman...
    Guzman outboxed him with the gameplan he should have had in the first fight.

    he deserved the nod.

    Him coming in 8 pounds overweight is not erased by it.

    Yes he won, but it's a victory that means nothing right now.

    He needs to retire or move up to 140, or maybe even 147 after tonight.

    or fight Morales...

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    Default Re: Joan Guzman vs Ali Funeka 2 Spoilers.

    I know that Guzman's manager was trying to lay blame on Lee Beard for the weight, but Lee in turn had left the weight issue in the hands of Kerry Kayes. Kerry had said that he would be able to get the weight off. I think there came a point where Joan just basically gave up trying to lose the weight, knowing he couldnt shift it.

    I know Guzman was very happy the way Lee had trained him. He also said that Lee was responsible for making him plant his feet and throw his shots with power which is something they had worked on. Guzman admitted that previously he'd been guilty of slapping a bit with his punches in fear he would damage his brittle hands. I'd expect to see Guzman stay with Lee after this fight, because overall he was very happy technique wise with what Lee had shown him.
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    Default Re: Joan Guzman vs Ali Funeka 2 Spoilers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy G-Force View Post
    I know that Guzman's manager was trying to lay blame on Lee Beard for the weight, but Lee in turn had left the weight issue in the hands of Kerry Kayes. Kerry had said that he would be able to get the weight off. I think there came a point where Joan just basically gave up trying to lose the weight, knowing he couldnt shift it.

    I know Guzman was very happy the way Lee had trained him. He also said that Lee was responsible for making him plant his feet and throw his shots with power which is something they had worked on. Guzman admitted that previously he'd been guilty of slapping a bit with his punches in fear he would damage his brittle hands. I'd expect to see Guzman stay with Lee after this fight, because overall he was very happy technique wise with what Lee had shown him.
    Well in that case all 3 of those guys take a hit. Tactics aside, that was the most unprofessional BS of all time right there and the accountability falls on the fighter and the trainer.

    What if Funeka was allowed to weigh the same? How different would it have been? It's bullshit and you can go back in time and see I'm a big fan of Guzman but holy shit, 9 pounds!!!!! That's not heavyweights or even cruiserweights it's lightweight! How can anyone say people are being to harsh? The fight result shouldn't even count.

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