Abraham - Justified DQ?

[denilson200]

Hi All,

I have to admit that I haven't seen the fight. That said, I'm wondering if Cole was justified in calling this a DQ. If, in fact, it was a justifiable DQ, what the hell did Abraham do to get DQ'd?

Absolutely puzzling from what I've read so far. Very curious to read to some unbiased opinions from members in the know.

Thanks in advance

The two best boxers of the tournament are Dirrell and Ward and both in my mind are undefeated, as Dirrell beat Froch in my opinion. Abraham is a just stand up, unathletic classic european fighter who was always gonna be exposed by more athletic fighter who with good combo's and speed two match. It's funny really Dirrell and Ward were considered thw two weakest fighters before the super 6 started but even at this early stage they are looking like the two best.

[GAME]

Hi All,

I have to admit that I haven't seen the fight. That said, I'm wondering if Cole was justified in calling this a DQ. If, in fact, it was a justifiable DQ, what the hell did Abraham do to get DQ'd?

Absolutely puzzling from what I've read so far. Very curious to read to some unbiased opinions from members in the know.

Thanks in advance

The two best boxers of the tournament are Dirrell and Ward and both in my mind are undefeated, as Dirrell beat Froch in my opinion. Abraham is a just stand up, unathletic classic european fighter who was always gonna be exposed by more athletic fighter who with good combo's and speed two match. It's funny really Dirrell and Ward were considered thw two weakest fighters before the super 6 started but even at this early stage they are looking like the two best.

I dont think Dirrels looking like the best. He was owned by Carl Froch and he was knocked cold last night. As for Ward he headbutted his way to a win over Kessler and if he tarvelled he'd lose but he has home advantage in every fight so its being fixed for him to win it.

[ninjaspy3]

Hi All,

I have to admit that I haven't seen the fight. That said, I'm wondering if Cole was justified in calling this a DQ. If, in fact, it was a justifiable DQ, what the hell did Abraham do to get DQ'd?

Absolutely puzzling from what I've read so far. Very curious to read to some unbiased opinions from members in the know.

Thanks in advance

The two best boxers of the tournament are Dirrell and Ward and both in my mind are undefeated, as Dirrell beat Froch in my opinion. Abraham is a just stand up, unathletic classic european fighter who was always gonna be exposed by more athletic fighter who with good combo's and speed two match. It's funny really Dirrell and Ward were considered thw two weakest fighters before the super 6 started but even at this early stage they are looking like the two best.

I dont think Dirrels looking like the best. He was owned by Carl Froch and he was knocked cold last night. As for Ward he headbutted his way to a win over Kessler and if he tarvelled he'd lose but he has home advantage in every fight so its being fixed for him to win it.

Anybody? I cant be the only one on this forum who takes issue with this statement because -it is absolutely misleading- Opinion is one thing but when you twist the facts in such a way, it is obviously no longer truth.

@Game: where are you from? You obviously have an illogical dislike of both American boxers in the tournament.

[GAME]

The two best boxers of the tournament are Dirrell and Ward and both in my mind are undefeated, as Dirrell beat Froch in my opinion. Abraham is a just stand up, unathletic classic european fighter who was always gonna be exposed by more athletic fighter who with good combo's and speed two match. It's funny really Dirrell and Ward were considered thw two weakest fighters before the super 6 started but even at this early stage they are looking like the two best.

I dont think Dirrels looking like the best. He was owned by Carl Froch and he was knocked cold last night. As for Ward he headbutted his way to a win over Kessler and if he tarvelled he'd lose but he has home advantage in every fight so its being fixed for him to win it.

Anybody? I cant be the only one on this forum who takes issue with this statement because -it is absolutely misleading- Opinion is one thing but when you twist the facts in such a way, it is obviously no longer truth.

@Game: where are you from? You obviously have an illogical dislike of both American boxers in the tournament.

You said Direll beat Froch and Im pointing out the fact that Froch won and that Dirrel was knocked cold last night. Deal with it.

[ninjaspy3]

I dont think Dirrels looking like the best. He was owned by Carl Froch and he was knocked cold last night. As for Ward he headbutted his way to a win over Kessler and if he tarvelled he'd lose but he has home advantage in every fight so its being fixed for him to win it.

Anybody? I cant be the only one on this forum who takes issue with this statement because -it is absolutely misleading- Opinion is one thing but when you twist the facts in such a way, it is obviously no longer truth.

@Game: where are you from? You obviously have an illogical dislike of both American boxers in the tournament.

You said Direll beat Froch and Im pointing out the fact that Froch won and that Dirrel was knocked cold last night. Deal with it.

I did not say Dirrel beat Froch. You said Froch owned Dirrel which was totally false. That was a very close fight and there was no "ownage".

And secondly, you say Dirrel was acting -and- you say he was knocked cold, so maybe if you choose -1- of these, it would be a little more believable.

[Nameless]

There is a few decisions and things that I don't like about Cole in the match but I can easily see an argument why Abraham has been disqualified, unfortunately...

[Tysonbruno]

Should Arthur have been Dq'd?? had Dirrell stayed upright no perhaps he should have lost a point but as Dirrell went over and ref didn't know if he was really out or not then yes Arthur should have been dq'd but the only real problem i have is the acting by Dirrell it was embarrassing Arthur skimmed his face with a left and he slipped over he then followed through with the right hand. Now here is the acting Dirrell looks at Arthur he squints his left eye then raises his left hand to his face he falls over then rolls under the ring he then does the river dance with his legs. Then as the ref says get the doctor in here Dirrel as if by miracle turns on to his side perhaps knowing if the doc gets near him he will be found out to be acting he then does his best to avoid the doctor shining the light in his eyes then when interviewed he says he was knocked out then someone says no you won then he says yes i was hit while i was down just got his memory back as quick as that. And he kept holding his left side of his face where he had been hit now this was laughable he had been punched for 11 rounds and this 1 punch was making him hold his face no its cos he was highlighting the fact he had been hit on it. The guy is a joke he ran like a scared child against Froch he also did some daft stuff and now this against Arthur he knew Arthur was catching up to him and he could have got him Dirrell didn't want to end up out cold like Jermain and many other against Arthur this oportunity presented itself and Dirrell took it cos he dint want to be 0-2 in this comp.

[Gandalf]

The DQ was justified, but I didn't like seeing it as I thought Dirrell was wilting and Abraham had finally realised it was do or die. You can't hit a man when he is down. It was a rush of blood and Abraham probably will regret it when he watches the video and sees Dirrell down with his legs splayed all over the place.

I also agree with GAME that Froch beat Dirrell, but ownage is probably a bit strong.

[denilson200]

Hi All,

I have to admit that I haven't seen the fight. That said, I'm wondering if Cole was justified in calling this a DQ. If, in fact, it was a justifiable DQ, what the hell did Abraham do to get DQ'd?

Absolutely puzzling from what I've read so far. Very curious to read to some unbiased opinions from members in the know.

Thanks in advance

The two best boxers of the tournament are Dirrell and Ward and both in my mind are undefeated, as Dirrell beat Froch in my opinion. Abraham is a just stand up, unathletic classic european fighter who was always gonna be exposed by more athletic fighter who with good combo's and speed two match. It's funny really Dirrell and Ward were considered thw two weakest fighters before the super 6 started but even at this early stage they are looking like the two best.

I dont think Dirrels looking like the best. He was owned by Carl Froch and he was knocked cold last night. As for Ward he headbutted his way to a win over Kessler and if he tarvelled he'd lose but he has home advantage in every fight so its being fixed for him to win it.

Dirrell was owned by Froch ? Froch won on hometown split decision. Listen I'm based in the UK and I listened to the fight on UK radio station and EVEN THEIR commentators made Dirrell the clear winner. As for Abraham knocking out Dirrell, only his mother would say something like that because any impartial observer would realise that hitting some when they are down on one knee is not what I call getting knocked out. And trust me, Abraham will lose to Ward and Green too. He may well win a *You Hit Me - I Hit You* slug-fest against Froch but he will NEVER become a top fighter. It's one thing, fighting handpicked fighters in your home country in Germany, but taken your thing on the road is another story and as I've said before I don't think Dirrell is great fighter.

I just think as Floyd Mayweather says "Skills pays the bills" and that will be shown even if they fought again. Abraham just marches forward, no head movement, no feints, no dropping of the shoulder, no nothing. He's an MMA fighter where skill is not so much required, In fact Abraham would make a great MMA fighter, but he will NEVER EVER be a top, top boxer because he just hasn't got the skills.

[GAME]

The two best boxers of the tournament are Dirrell and Ward and both in my mind are undefeated, as Dirrell beat Froch in my opinion. Abraham is a just stand up, unathletic classic european fighter who was always gonna be exposed by more athletic fighter who with good combo's and speed two match. It's funny really Dirrell and Ward were considered thw two weakest fighters before the super 6 started but even at this early stage they are looking like the two best.

I dont think Dirrels looking like the best. He was owned by Carl Froch and he was knocked cold last night. As for Ward he headbutted his way to a win over Kessler and if he tarvelled he'd lose but he has home advantage in every fight so its being fixed for him to win it.

Dirrell was owned by Froch ? Froch won on hometown split decision. Listen I'm based in the UK and I listened to the fight on UK radio station and EVEN THEIR commentators made Dirrell the clear winner. As for Abraham knocking out Dirrell, only his mother would say something like that because any impartial observer would realise that hitting some when they are down on one knee is not what I call getting knocked out. And trust me, Abraham will lose to Ward and Green too. He may well win a *You Hit Me - I Hit You* slug-fest against Froch but he will NEVER become a top fighter. It's one thing, fighting handpicked fighters in your home country in Germany, but taken your thing on the road is another story and as I've said before I don't think Dirrell is great fighter.

I just think as Floyd Mayweather says "Skills pays the bills" and that will be shown even if they fought again. Abraham just marches forward, no head movement, no feints, no dropping of the shoulder, no nothing. He's an MMA fighter where skill is not so much required, In fact Abraham would make a great MMA fighter, but he will NEVER EVER be a top, top boxer because he just hasn't got the skills.

He already is a top fighter. He would have won last night too if Direll hadnt taken the cowards way out. Froch has beaten Direl fairly but both decisions in the US so far have been dodgy.

[Mad_Dog]

game, r u freaking insane....

dude was already dq'd. his so called acting did not matter. So the acting argument falls apart. Second, AA was not going to win that fight. He was not landing any clean shots. All Dirrell had to do was dance the last two rounds.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

It was justified. No question.

Infact, I cant see anyone questioning the call. I wish this poll was public so I could see who voted NO.... Probably some new members named Armin1, 2, 3 & 4

On another note... Certain peeps need to realise that this whole ''It's irrelevant if Andre Dirrell was acting or not'' argument is kind of irrelevant in itself.
The fact that I personally think Dirrell made a meal of the whole issue has no baring on MY judgement on what happened Saturday night means that I or anyone one of like-minded opinion is perfectly welcome to express the opinion of suspected melo-dramatics.

It's a statement of opinion relevant to my opinion of Andre Dirrell. I was actually really happy with his performance untill his little encore

[killersheep]

It was justified. No question.

Infact, I cant see anyone questioning the call. I wish this poll was public so I could see who voted NO.... Probably some new members named Armin1, 2, 3 & 4

On another note... Certain peeps need to realise that this whole ''It's irrelevant if Andre Dirrell was acting or not'' argument is kind of irrelevant in itself.
The fact that I personally think Dirrell made a meal of the whole issue has no baring on MY judgement on what happened Saturday night means that I or anyone one of like-minded opinion is perfectly welcome to express the opinion of suspected melo-dramatics.

It's a statement of opinion relevant to my opinion of Andre Dirrell. I was actually really happy with his performance untill his little encore

The poll is public: Eloking, GAME, SEB, Tysonbruno and KING-PAC-MAN are the ones that believe the DQ was not justified.

[0james0]

If that fight had gone on AA was going to knock him out. He was landing clean shots, including a knockdown not counted shortly before the DQ.

I think although it was an illegal punch, I would have like to see the fight continue. We see low blows all the time, but that doesn't end up in a DQ. Even if it's a bad one, we might see the fight stopped for respite (doesn't the victim have up to 5 minutes to recover? from a low blow?)

The call was made harder by the fact Dirrell rolled around and couldn't continue. It was a solid punch, but seemed more of an arm swing rather than something with snap.

Found this video of the fight (they have full length and highlights)

Abraham vs Dirrell Highlights - Boxing Highlights

I've only just managed to watch the fight, hence my late opinions on it

[hfahrenheit]

Hi All,

I have to admit that I haven't seen the fight. That said, I'm wondering if Cole was justified in calling this a DQ. If, in fact, it was a justifiable DQ, what the hell did Abraham do to get DQ'd?

Absolutely puzzling from what I've read so far. Very curious to read to some unbiased opinions from members in the know.

Thanks in advance

The two best boxers of the tournament are Dirrell and Ward and both in my mind are undefeated, as Dirrell beat Froch in my opinion. Abraham is a just stand up, unathletic classic european fighter who was always gonna be exposed by more athletic fighter who with good combo's and speed two match. It's funny really Dirrell and Ward were considered thw two weakest fighters before the super 6 started but even at this early stage they are looking like the two best.

I dont think Dirrels looking like the best. He was owned by Carl Froch and he was knocked cold last night. As for Ward he headbutted his way to a win over Kessler and if he tarvelled he'd lose but he has home advantage in every fight so its being fixed for him to win it.

I don't think I've ever agreed with any one statement as much as the one above. I would only add that the Dirrell v. AA fight was beginning to look suspiciously like Taylor v. AA--AA was beginning to land some big shots and Dirrell was tired and running.