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    Default Re: Pavlik v Martinez only a few weeks away who you got?

    I've become a fan of Martinez and would like to see him beat Pavlik and get a well deserved win. Size advantages for aside, i think his lifestyle outsidethe ring has put some mileage on him and wouldn't be surprised if he came back looking like half his old self.
    At the same time Martinez took a few shots over his career and you have to wonder if that accumulates over time. The guys all class though and has the ability to shock people and trump the odds, even if they do screw him on the decision. I'll agree with those that say Martinez wins the fight and Pavlik wins he popularity contest. Poor Martinez has been jobbed more times than emmanuel agustus.
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    I like both guys this will be a good one. If i had to bet the house i'd say martinez beats him, his speed and that he won't try and slug but instead hit and move will bother pavlik. Martinez when he wants to plant himself hits harder than a lot of guys think. Hell he made cintron think he hit him with his damn head.
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    Default Re: Pavlik v Martinez only a few weeks away who you got?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
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    I think if Pavlik believes his own hype that he is a "one punch knockouter" kind of guy he will be in trouble. But if the old Kelly shows up throwing over 100 punches a round or close to that.It will be a good night for Kelly. I think Martinez is slick and has great skill at 154 but at 160 Kelly is a different animal than Martinez has ever faced.Even if the punches are blocked they physically will move Martinez around the ring. I say TKO in 10 for Kelly. Martinez could win this if he is on his bicycle all night but I think he will have too much pride and try to trade with Kelly at some point and get hurt.
    You going to the fight? It's in AC...

    You say that even though Martinez fought Paul Williams at 160, a guy who is as long as Pavlik and throws as many punches as Pavlik although without the power. Yet, Williams has better movement than Pavlik and is faster. See the whole 160 thing is correct in a sense in that Martinez is probably more dominant at 154 and that's where he belongs. I favor him in fights with most guys out there at 154. But, that doesn't mean he can't move up in weight and beat guys at 160 because he did it for all intents and purposes against Williams.
    I here you in a way. Paul Williams doesn't have any pop from what I seen at 160 that is why I had Pavlik easily beating him if they had met. Williams still has good range and good movement but Kelly's mechanics a simply better. A much stiffer jab,a solid right hand and if you look at Pavlik he is very well taught. Never finishes combinations off balance, never is out of position to not throw any punch he is simply well taught. Were if you look at Williams he was constantly leaning in with his left hand against Martinez and Quintana and getting clocked by the counter left. Williams is a very rythymic fighter( I like to call him) Once he is out of his rythym he can be beaten. Hence Quintana and in my mind the Martinez defeats . We also do have to remember this was both of there first fight's at middleweight. So either of them didn't get a true feel for a natural middleweight.

    I still don't know if I will be going down there. I have a pregnant wife and she is a bit unpredictable at this state. She just may want to sleep the whole weekend.

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    Default Re: Pavlik v Martinez only a few weeks away who you got?

    I have Martinez putting on a BOXING CLINIC for a few reasons

    #1 Sergio is a very active slick southpaw. Who likes fighting those guys? NOBODY

    #2 Kelly Pavlik has been no where to be found and rumors abound about what the hell he has been doing recently. They range from him being seriously injured (his hand or something) which could affect his game to him having a serious drinking problem and anger issues which could also lead to his demise in the ring.

    #3 Sergio Martinez fought toe to toe with someone that's as big, awkward, and active as they come in Paul Williams. Sure PW buzzed Martinez and they fought pretty evenly and we can't compare the power of PW to the power of Pavlik. But PW throws over 100 punches a round and it's hard to be slick vs that type of fighter whereas it's far easier to be slick vs Kelly Pavlik's 1-2 shots at a time.

    #4 Pavlik isn't tuned up. Kelly's last fights were vs Miguel Espino and Marco Antonio Rubio, not exactly top competition.

    #5 Pavlik has had trouble with the top competition he has fought. So Kelly blitzed Edison Miranda, so what. Bernard Hopkins made Swiss Cheese out of Kelly and Jermain Taylor should have gotten the nod in their rematch. Meanwhile Sergio Martinez has recently been on the shit end of the stick vs Paul Williams (whom most thought he beat) and vs Kermit Cintron (whom everyone knows he beat). Say what you will about what a b*tch Cintron is but the power he carries is comparable to Pavlik's and I think Cintron boxes a bit better than Kelly and Sergio just straight up outclassed the guy.

    I just think right now Sergio Martinez is poised to beat the shit out of Kelly Pavlik, I mean just box the kids ears off all night long. But I hope this time Sergio gets the decision he has earned

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    Default Re: Pavlik v Martinez only a few weeks away who you got?

    Martinez is gonna put it to Pavlik, just like Paul would've; Pavlik is too one dimensional.

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