Why do people think any good NBA/NFL athlete can beat the Klit bros?

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I think it's pretty obvious that Wlad is pretty athletic.

I think people are greatly misunderstanding things. P4P isn't arguing that tomorrow Lebron James could dedicate himself to boxing and make it. He's saying that if James had been boxing since childhood instead of playing basketball, you could damn near guarantee he would be pretty good. I subscribe to that theory.

Yes he comes from a different planet, he very well may be the greatest combination of size and athleticism the world has ever seen. That may be a stretch but it may not be. His mental makeup, will and volition to get better would ensure success in boxing.

No way he beats Wlad now or any time in the future, maybe he never does it period, but it's common sense that he would be successful had he taken it up instead of basketball.

[blegit]

I think it's pretty obvious that Wlad is pretty athletic.

I think people are greatly misunderstanding things. P4P isn't arguing that tomorrow Lebron James could dedicate himself to boxing and make it. He's saying that if James had been boxing since childhood instead of playing basketball, you could damn near guarantee he would be pretty good. I subscribe to that theory.

Yes he comes from a different planet, he very well may be the greatest combination of size and athleticism the world has ever seen. That may be a stretch but it may not be. His mental makeup, will and volition to get better would ensure success in boxing.

No way he beats Wlad now or any time in the future, maybe he never does it period, but it's common sense that he would be successful had he taken it up instead of basketball.

And I absolutely agree. This is all I was saying too and somehow people are picking only certain parts and come up with "Lebron boxing a Klitshko." The bottom line is that Lebron is way more athletic than the Klitschkos. How does anybody refute that with a straight face?

[Nameless]

I think it's pretty obvious that Wlad is pretty athletic.

I think people are greatly misunderstanding things. P4P isn't arguing that tomorrow Lebron James could dedicate himself to boxing and make it. He's saying that if James had been boxing since childhood instead of playing basketball, you could damn near guarantee he would be pretty good. I subscribe to that theory.

Yes he comes from a different planet, he very well may be the greatest combination of size and athleticism the world has ever seen. That may be a stretch but it may not be. His mental makeup, will and volition to get better would ensure success in boxing.

No way he beats Wlad now or any time in the future, maybe he never does it period, but it's common sense that he would be successful had he taken it up instead of basketball.

And I absolutely agree. This is all I was saying too and somehow people are picking only certain parts and come up with "Lebron boxing a Klitshko." The bottom line is that Lebron is way more athletic than the Klitschkos. How does anybody refute that with a straight face?

If the K would be basketball champions, at 6.7 and 6.8 with not an oz of fat you would probably say they are the most gifted things on earth.

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I think it's pretty obvious that Wlad is pretty athletic.

I think people are greatly misunderstanding things. P4P isn't arguing that tomorrow Lebron James could dedicate himself to boxing and make it. He's saying that if James had been boxing since childhood instead of playing basketball, you could damn near guarantee he would be pretty good. I subscribe to that theory.

Yes he comes from a different planet, he very well may be the greatest combination of size and athleticism the world has ever seen. That may be a stretch but it may not be. His mental makeup, will and volition to get better would ensure success in boxing.

No way he beats Wlad now or any time in the future, maybe he never does it period, but it's common sense that he would be successful had he taken it up instead of basketball.

And I absolutely agree. This is all I was saying too and somehow people are picking only certain parts and come up with "Lebron boxing a Klitshko." The bottom line is that Lebron is way more athletic than the Klitschkos. How does anybody refute that with a straight face?

If the K would be basketball champions, at 6.7 and 6.8 with not an oz of fat you would probably say they are the most gifted things on earth.

And that is about the most misconstrued IF you could ever come up with. The Klitsshcko's couldn't possibly be GREAT basketball players, their size is completely typical of so many guys in the NBA who are MUCH faster, stronger, with way better reflexes. Of course it's pointless to compare guys who are in different sports for a large part, but there are certain measures of athletecism which aren't entirely specific to one sport. You think the Klitschko's 40 yard dash, bench press, vertical leap, etc. Would come anywhere CLOSE to even a half decent NFL linebacker or power forward in the NBA? Of course not.

[Hunter]

And I absolutely agree. This is all I was saying too and somehow people are picking only certain parts and come up with "Lebron boxing a Klitshko." The bottom line is that Lebron is way more athletic than the Klitschkos. How does anybody refute that with a straight face?

If the K would be basketball champions, at 6.7 and 6.8 with not an oz of fat you would probably say they are the most gifted things on earth.

And that is about the most misconstrued IF you could ever come up with. The Klitsshcko's couldn't possibly be GREAT basketball players, their size is completely typical of so many guys in the NBA who are MUCH faster, stronger, with way better reflexes. Of course it's pointless to compare guys who are in different sports for a large part, but there are certain measures of athletecism which aren't entirely specific to one sport. You think the Klitschko's 40 yard dash, bench press, vertical leap, etc. Would come anywhere CLOSE to even a half decent NFL linebacker or power forward in the NBA? Of course not.

I have no idea what Wlad vertical and 40 yard dash is but if I had to bet I would say it is better than 50% of NFL linebackers. I would also say that Wlad is stronger, has less body fat, and more stamina than 95% of NFL backers. I would say he has better hand speed than 100%...

I am not saying Wlad is a better athlete than Lebron but there are things that Wlad can do better than Lebron and vise versa. It is hard to compare them when you only see a snapshot of what Wlad can do. I think you can take any top athlete and say if they focused on another sport they could have had success. Michael Jordan proved you cant just switch it up and dominate....

[blegit]

I think it's pretty obvious that Wlad is pretty athletic.

I think people are greatly misunderstanding things. P4P isn't arguing that tomorrow Lebron James could dedicate himself to boxing and make it. He's saying that if James had been boxing since childhood instead of playing basketball, you could damn near guarantee he would be pretty good. I subscribe to that theory.

Yes he comes from a different planet, he very well may be the greatest combination of size and athleticism the world has ever seen. That may be a stretch but it may not be. His mental makeup, will and volition to get better would ensure success in boxing.

No way he beats Wlad now or any time in the future, maybe he never does it period, but it's common sense that he would be successful had he taken it up instead of basketball.

And I absolutely agree. This is all I was saying too and somehow people are picking only certain parts and come up with "Lebron boxing a Klitshko." The bottom line is that Lebron is way more athletic than the Klitschkos. How does anybody refute that with a straight face?

If the K would be basketball champions, at 6.7 and 6.8 with not an oz of fat you would probably say they are the most gifted things on earth.

Yeah, you can come back with a better one than that. Can't you?

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I think it's pretty obvious that Wlad is pretty athletic.

I think people are greatly misunderstanding things. P4P isn't arguing that tomorrow Lebron James could dedicate himself to boxing and make it. He's saying that if James had been boxing since childhood instead of playing basketball, you could damn near guarantee he would be pretty good. I subscribe to that theory.

Yes he comes from a different planet, he very well may be the greatest combination of size and athleticism the world has ever seen. That may be a stretch but it may not be. His mental makeup, will and volition to get better would ensure success in boxing.

No way he beats Wlad now or any time in the future, maybe he never does it period, but it's common sense that he would be successful had he taken it up instead of basketball.

Thank you, that was indeed all I was trying to get across. To address the original post literally is just so completely pointless and self evident I didn't bother. I've never heard anyone say that a given NFL or NBA player could beat any decent fighter if they just chose to take up boxing tomorrow, only that they posses physical tools which are far superior to begin with, and with training could have made much better fighters. This thread is really quite stupid.

[generalbulldog]

I think it's pretty obvious that Wlad is pretty athletic.

I think people are greatly misunderstanding things. P4P isn't arguing that tomorrow Lebron James could dedicate himself to boxing and make it. He's saying that if James had been boxing since childhood instead of playing basketball, you could damn near guarantee he would be pretty good. I subscribe to that theory.

Yes he comes from a different planet, he very well may be the greatest combination of size and athleticism the world has ever seen. That may be a stretch but it may not be. His mental makeup, will and volition to get better would ensure success in boxing.

No way he beats Wlad now or any time in the future, maybe he never does it period, but it's common sense that he would be successful had he taken it up instead of basketball.

Thank you, that was indeed all I was trying to get across. To address the original post literally is just so completely pointless and self evident I didn't bother. I've never heard anyone say that a given NFL or NBA player could beat any decent fighter if they just chose to take up boxing tomorrow, only that they posses physical tools which are far superior to begin with, and with training could have made much better fighters. This thread is really quite stupid.

Then you didn't read my original post clearly. Here I'll post the little part for you.

Inspired by another recent thread here.

It seems that there are a lot of people out there that thinks that if Shaq or Lebron James or Ray Lewis took up boxing either at a young age or later age that they can beat the Klit bros and be HW champs.

I stated that there are a lot of people think that a lot of NBA/NFL players can beat the Klit brothers at a young age or later age (meaning starting and training at a young age sticking with it or starting at a later advance age.) They seem to be under this assumption that NBA/NFL athletes are so athletically supreme that had they started at an young age in boxing they would dominate it, or coming at a later age and dominating it. I don't agree. Because you just don't know if whether or not they could do that. Boxing requires certain things you need to possess. Like heart, chin, will, bravery, mental toughness, killer instinct, etc. You can have all the physical tools in the world, but if you don't possess these qualities, you're not getting far. A prime example is Joshua Clottey, he never had the will, mental toughness, killer instinct to be elite, when he had all the physical tools to be 1 of the best in the game.

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I think it's pretty obvious that Wlad is pretty athletic.

I think people are greatly misunderstanding things. P4P isn't arguing that tomorrow Lebron James could dedicate himself to boxing and make it. He's saying that if James had been boxing since childhood instead of playing basketball, you could damn near guarantee he would be pretty good. I subscribe to that theory.

Yes he comes from a different planet, he very well may be the greatest combination of size and athleticism the world has ever seen. That may be a stretch but it may not be. His mental makeup, will and volition to get better would ensure success in boxing.

No way he beats Wlad now or any time in the future, maybe he never does it period, but it's common sense that he would be successful had he taken it up instead of basketball.

Thank you, that was indeed all I was trying to get across. To address the original post literally is just so completely pointless and self evident I didn't bother. I've never heard anyone say that a given NFL or NBA player could beat any decent fighter if they just chose to take up boxing tomorrow, only that they posses physical tools which are far superior to begin with, and with training could have made much better fighters. This thread is really quite stupid.

Then you didn't read my original post clearly. Here I'll post the little part for you.

Inspired by another recent thread here.

It seems that there are a lot of people out there that thinks that if Shaq or Lebron James or Ray Lewis took up boxing either at a young age or later age that they can beat the Klit bros and be HW champs.

I stated that there are a lot of people think that a lot of NBA/NFL players can beat the Klit brothers at a young age or later age (meaning starting and training at a young age sticking with it or starting at a later advance age.) They seem to be under this assumption that NBA/NFL athletes are so athletically supreme that had they started at an young age in boxing they would dominate it, or coming at a later age and dominating it. I don't agree. Because you just don't know if whether or not they could do that. Boxing requires certain things you need to possess. Like heart, chin, will, bravery, mental toughness, killer instinct, etc. You can have all the physical tools in the world, but if you don't possess these qualities, you're not getting far. A prime example is Joshua Clottey, he never had the will, mental toughness, killer instinct to be elite, when he had all the physical tools.

I did read your initial post and adressed pretty well every aspect of it. I acknowledged that you can never know for certain whether a given athlete COULD have been a great boxer due to intangibles, and so on. I am of the opinion that this whole thread is a joke, that is all.

[blegit]

I think it's pretty obvious that Wlad is pretty athletic.

I think people are greatly misunderstanding things. P4P isn't arguing that tomorrow Lebron James could dedicate himself to boxing and make it. He's saying that if James had been boxing since childhood instead of playing basketball, you could damn near guarantee he would be pretty good. I subscribe to that theory.

Yes he comes from a different planet, he very well may be the greatest combination of size and athleticism the world has ever seen. That may be a stretch but it may not be. His mental makeup, will and volition to get better would ensure success in boxing.

No way he beats Wlad now or any time in the future, maybe he never does it period, but it's common sense that he would be successful had he taken it up instead of basketball.

Thank you, that was indeed all I was trying to get across. To address the original post literally is just so completely pointless and self evident I didn't bother. I've never heard anyone say that a given NFL or NBA player could beat any decent fighter if they just chose to take up boxing tomorrow, only that they posses physical tools which are far superior to begin with, and with training could have made much better fighters. This thread is really quite stupid.

Then you didn't read my original post clearly. Here I'll post the little part for you.

Inspired by another recent thread here.

It seems that there are a lot of people out there that thinks that if Shaq or Lebron James or Ray Lewis took up boxing either at a young age or later age that they can beat the Klit bros and be HW champs.

I stated that there are a lot of people think that a lot of NBA/NFL players can beat the Klit brothers at a young age or later age (meaning starting and training at a young age sticking with it or starting at a later advance age.) They seem to be under this assumption that NBA/NFL athletes are so athletically supreme that had they started at an young age in boxing they would dominate it, or coming at a later age and dominating it. I don't agree. Because you just don't know if whether or not they could do that. Boxing requires certain things you need to possess. Like heart, chin, will, bravery, mental toughness, killer instinct, etc. You can have all the physical tools in the world, but if you don't possess these qualities, you're not getting far. A prime example is Joshua Clottey, he never had the will, mental toughness, killer instinct to be elite, when he had all the physical tools to be 1 of the best in the game.

Yes, but I wasn't one of them who said Lebron or any other guy could beat the Klitschkos. I said they are more athletic. And as common sense would tell you of course they would have a better starting point. But that doesn't determine the ending point. We can't prove what would've happened if Lebron, Ray Lewis, or Shaq(who is not very athletic) grew up boxing. But Lebron and someone like Calvin Johnson have dream heavyweight athleticism. Its an interesting argument but I stick to just not speculating what can't be redone.

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Apparently Rasheed Wallace was wiping the floor with Lennox Lewis all day at Kronk in sparring when he played for detroit, somebody I know was there.

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Kobe Bryant has a way better chin than Wlad to, he's never been knocked out.

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But I'm sure Wlad is a better Kite surfer, and he only started in his twenties. Tough call really.