How did they get that scoring?

[Truth]

I had it 117 - 111 Hopkins

[Gandalf]

I didn't score it properly, but felt it was a clear Hopkins win. He got too far ahead early on with that repulsive 'hook, ram with the head, clinch' thing he does. There needs to be rules about charging in with the head down in boxing. It is repugnant. Jones Jr goes out with his held high IMO. He did what he could but everything seemed to be against him. Why doesn't anyone warn or take points away from Hopkins for his clinching? This SHOULDN'T be a part of boxing. Inside fighting is great, but blatant clinching is unnaceptable. It spoils fights and shouldn't be allowed.

Anyway, I thought Jones won the 5th (I think it was the 5th) and his share of the rounds down the stretch, so a Hopkins win but not by ridiculously wide margins. Hopkins should have lost a couple of points too.

[Hulk]

I didn't score it properly, but felt it was a clear Hopkins win. He got too far ahead early on with that repulsive 'hook, ram with the head, clinch' thing he does. There needs to be rules about charging in with the head down in boxing. It is repugnant. Jones Jr goes out with his held high IMO. He did what he could but everything seemed to be against him. Why doesn't anyone warn or take points away from Hopkins for his clinching? This SHOULDN'T be a part of boxing. Inside fighting is great, but blatant clinching is unnaceptable. It spoils fights and shouldn't be allowed.

Anyway, I thought Jones won the 5th (I think it was the 5th) and his share of the rounds down the stretch, so a Hopkins win but not by ridiculously wide margins. Hopkins should have lost a couple of points too.

Agreed. Hopkins won more rounds clearly and won the fight.

But he should have been deducted at least two points for his blatent headbutts and hittin after the bell and acting his ass off.

Just disgraceful performances by both.

[amat]

Nazim hit the nail on the head in the corner when he said that Roy was only there to try to survive an say he went 12 rounds, I gave 1 round to Roy and that was the 5th or the 6th I believe.

[Taeth]

Nazim hit the nail on the head in the corner when he said that Roy was only there to try to survive an say he went 12 rounds, I gave 1 round to Roy and that was the 5th or the 6th I believe.

Where you guys giving rounds to Hopkins just because? He wasn't landing the better punches in many of the rounds, and he wasn't bombarding Roy with punches ala Joe Calzaghe, and after the first 4 or 5 rounds Roy started hitting Hopkins with uppercuts on the inside pretty much everytime. Most of Bernard's combinations were just hitting Roy on the gloves and arms.

[Gandalf]

Nazim hit the nail on the head in the corner when he said that Roy was only there to try to survive an say he went 12 rounds, I gave 1 round to Roy and that was the 5th or the 6th I believe.

Where you guys giving rounds to Hopkins just because? He wasn't landing the better punches in many of the rounds, and he wasn't bombarding Roy with punches ala Joe Calzaghe, and after the first 4 or 5 rounds Roy started hitting Hopkins with uppercuts on the inside pretty much everytime. Most of Bernard's combinations were just hitting Roy on the gloves and arms.

Yeah, Jones started to try and do some work on the inside after realising he was being completely nullified in the opening 4. A lot of good uppercuts were getting through. I also saw a fair few straight rights from Jones landing flush. The problem for Jones was also that he was just too gun shy. It reminded me of Jones/Tarver 3 a little in that sense. The fight was there to be won if he could have thrown a bit more because I just do not believe that Hopkins has the stamina to keep up. But those roughhouse tactics of Hopkins are just awful and can throw anyone off their game. Both guys look pretty done to me at this stage.

[JazMerkin]

I only gave Roy 2 rounds, he did seem like he was just trying to survive. Shit fight, the only positive thing that can be said is it wasn't as bad as their first one.