David Haye another Amir Con? Manufactured "champ?"

[ninjaspy3]

Frankly General Bulldog, do a tiny bit of research before calling a fighter a manufactured product. Because frankly, your conclusion that Haye is manufactered doesnt stand up in light of the facts.

Haye has fought 25 fights, in that time he has become unified cruiserweight champ (22nd fight) and current WBA heavyweight titlist.

He has only fought 4 fighters with losing records in his career. His 1st, 3rd, 5th and 6th fights.

He fought 2 ex world titlists in his 10th and 11th fights respectively.

He is a former bronzer medalist in the amatuer world championships.

He has promoted himself and has not had the Frank Warren mismatches and filler fights. He has made his own way without the help of any big-time promotion or hype courtesy of the afformentioned devil man.

Now compare these FACTS against any current fighter you wish. I think you'll find that Haye's resume stands up to comparison.

Frankly, calling Haye a manufactered champion is the most perposterous thing ive heard on these forums for a very long time.

Okay let me be exact. An manufactured HW champion. Heavyweight! Get it? I was talking about his HW "reign." The guy punked out not once, but twice against the Klit bros. And of course half of this board were excusing that fact as the Klits offering him a bad contract.

I can also name a bunch of fighters that blows away his resume. Starting with the 2 current faces of boxing and the 2 old timers fighting yesterday.

@Fenster, fair enough if you see Bradley as just an alphabet title holder, but his resume blows away what Khan has done. And the guy fights any guy in his division. You can't say that about Con boy.

Yes people have said, and I have agreed that Wlad does not have a fan friendly style, but hey he's the man of the division. Until someone beats him.

Why do you keep stating this as if it were a fact?

And what difference does the resume make once you hold a belt? I mean, resume or no, at that point you are a belt holder.

And to the idea of manufactured champ, if it's so easy, then why cant just anyone do it? But the fact is, many people didnt do it. But for some reason, Haye and Khan have.

So obviously they have something whether people want to admit it or not. Otherwise they would not, and could not be where they are today.

[Spicoli]

I can't in all fairness as a Holyfield fan call Haye a manufactured heavyweight,or champion.No...not in his class as far as I'm concerned but he put on the weight and made the transition from an established top Cruiserweight to heavyweight......where as Kahn was a pushed product,green and has until very recently honed skills and shown good improvment.

Besides...its the heavyweights.They need all the fawking help that they can get and for all of his bravado and mouth Haye is a shot in the arm.He starched a known comodity in impressive fashion lastnight.I have no doubts he'll face one of the brothers and if he does not,shame on him and too bad for the fans.