Have either Klitchko ever beaten anybody better than John Ruiz?

[ninjaspy3]

There answer to this question is a simple "yes".

Ruslan Chagaev beat John Ruiz (and also Valuev, but I digress) ergo he's a better fighter than John Ruiz and Wlad hammered the hell out of him

And there are a ton of guys on Wlad and Vitali's records that are more "dangerous" in terms of punching power than Ruiz. And there are even more guys the Klitschko's have beat who are more talented than Ruiz.

Ruiz was a good solid win for the WBA title holder but he's 38, his biggest win after the Chagaev loss was vs Jameel McCline and to warm up for this fight he fought Adnan Serin who is 19(7 KO's)-10-1. So I am not saying Ruiz is "done" but I am saying he is on the downside of his career which given his abilities has been an extremely good career for him.

However, may I point out that Ruiz held almost zero times during the entire fight. Just saying. I mean, this is Ruiz. He is famous for holding. For a guy on the way out, he put up one of his cleanest performances in a long time.

[El Kabong]

However, may I point out that Ruiz held almost zero times during the entire fight. Just saying. I mean, this is Ruiz. He is famous for holding. For a guy on the way out, he put up one of his cleanest performances in a long time.

That's probably one of the main reasons he lost. Of course the guy he was in with was younger, faster, stronger, and just an all around fresher fighter.

Had Ruiz tried to make it dirty, I think the ref would have taken points from him.

[Fenster]

However, may I point out that Ruiz held almost zero times during the entire fight. Just saying. I mean, this is Ruiz. He is famous for holding. For a guy on the way out, he put up one of his cleanest performances in a long time.

That's probably one of the main reasons he lost. Of course the guy he was in with was younger, faster, stronger, and just an all around fresher fighter.

Had Ruiz tried to make it dirty, I think the ref would have taken points from him.

Have you even seen the fight?

[El Kabong]

Have you even seen the fight?

I've seen parts of it....seemed to me to be similar to the Valuev fight for long stretches but with the punches doing more damage

[DaxxKahn]

Sure they have....And in their prime not too mention in more impressive fashion then Ruiz was beaten by Haye....

Ruiz is just tough and comes to fight he is nothing overly special...