Have either Klitchko ever beaten anybody better than John Ruiz?

[Fenster]

However, may I point out that Ruiz held almost zero times during the entire fight. Just saying. I mean, this is Ruiz. He is famous for holding. For a guy on the way out, he put up one of his cleanest performances in a long time.

That's probably one of the main reasons he lost. Of course the guy he was in with was younger, faster, stronger, and just an all around fresher fighter.

Had Ruiz tried to make it dirty, I think the ref would have taken points from him.

Have you even seen the fight?

[El Kabong]

Have you even seen the fight?

I've seen parts of it....seemed to me to be similar to the Valuev fight for long stretches but with the punches doing more damage

[DaxxKahn]

Sure they have....And in their prime not too mention in more impressive fashion then Ruiz was beaten by Haye....

Ruiz is just tough and comes to fight he is nothing overly special...