David Haye another Amir Con? Manufactured "champ?"

[El Kabong]

...then how did the Valuev fight come off The Setenta saga was well over by then and Vitali wanted to take on this chump and he chose Valuev instead....after talking all that shit and Vitali gives him a chance to man up and make it right and what did he do? He took the easy road.

I for one figured the guy needed to get a title and some experience before he fought the Klitschko's but you can't run off at the mouth like that and then tuck tail when you get a shot. That's what pissed me off so bad, he talked shit knowing full well he wasn't going to take the fight.

[ono]

...then how did the Valuev fight come off The Setenta saga was well over by then and Vitali wanted to take on this chump and he chose Valuev instead....after talking all that shit and Vitali gives him a chance to man up and make it right and what did he do? He took the easy road.

I for one figured the guy needed to get a title and some experience before he fought the Klitschko's but you can't run off at the mouth like that and then tuck tail when you get a shot. That's what pissed me off so bad, he talked shit knowing full well he wasn't going to take the fight.

Well basically the only options he could get from either Klitschko was a fight, in Germany, where Haye only takes home the UK TV money (Setanta), and where there was an immediate re-match clause + a fight against the other Klit.

That's why he went after the Heavyweight title. Especially when Setanta went bust. Not sure how that equates to him taking the easy road. He wants to fight a Klit but he also wants decent terms and decent money for it. The Klits seem to want everything on there terms because Haye apparently has no bargaining power. Now he has a title, and he has massive popularity (in the UK), he brings much more to the table.

[El Kabong]

So just because the WBA title holder is "extremely popular in England" the Klitschko's should get the shit end of the stick? Last time I checked Wlad was THE MAN in the division ergo he is entitled to his fair share and if anyone wants to take his place they can earn good money fighting Wlad and better money if they beat him. Why is that not clicking with you guys? When in the history of boxing has the challenger made more than the champion? But I guess the guy is obviously not ducking Wlad...fucking SHAMELESS fanboyism from you Brits, you have 0 idea about business!

[skel1983]

So just because the WBA title holder is "extremely popular in England" the Klitschko's should get the shit end of the stick? Last time I checked Wlad was THE MAN in the division ergo he is entitled to his fair share and if anyone wants to take his place they can earn good money fighting Wlad and better money if they beat him. Why is that not clicking with you guys? When in the history of boxing has the challenger made more than the champion? But I guess the guy is obviously not ducking Wlad...fucking SHAMELESS fanboyism from you Brits, you have 0 idea about business!

Pac v Hatton
Gatti v Mayweather
Khan v Kotelnik
Tyson v Bruno
etc
etc
etc

We could be hear all day...

[El Kabong]

As big as "your boy" is in England, Wlad is bigger in Germany.

[skel1983]

As big as "your boy" is in England, Wlad is bigger in Germany.

Not to sure about that to be honest big in what way?? Haye made 7.6 million dollers v Valuev and 800k PPV buys, has Wlad ever been on PPV??