Anybody think a Prime Vitali, would've beaten a Prime Lewis?

[HattonTheHammer]

stupid question...would expect us much from fat H

A prime lewis would make vitali wear a mini skirt and refer to him as "daddy"

[Hunter]

The way Lewis was FLATTENED by Rahman and McCall you cant gaurauntee a win against any legitimate heavy......

[Taeth]

I don't think its fair to say Lennox was in really bad shape or else Vitali would have absolutely knocked him out with those punches, He is a big puncher, especially back then when he was younger, and he landed some big punches on Lennox.

THere is no denying how much he dominated Lennox early, those weren't competitive rounds except the fact that Lennox was standing up well to his power, besides that Vitali was badly outlanding Lennox. Then Lennox started coming back, he landed some huge punches, I think there it became more competitive, but Vitali was dealing his power just as well. If there wasn't the cut I honestly believe Vitali would have a lost a couple more rounds then with his superior stamina would have either stopped or Lennox are given him a good beating to a UD.

At his best I think Lennox wins a competitive fight against Vitali, The only other guys who fought Lennox with size were completely incompetent at the elite level, but his style like Wladimir was based on being bigger and dominating off the jab. He was more versatile and a better athlete than Wlad, but Vitali took away his biggest assets.

[BIG H]

stupid question...would expect us much from fat H

[Fantana]

What I mean by "whipping" is defined by what I saw, which was clear to me. And it's backed up by all three scorecards 58-56 (4 rounds to 2) at the time of the stoppage. And here are the punch stats, which I think are pretty impressive and tell the tale.

Total Punches
Lewis Klitschko
Landed 102 156
Thrown 222 432
Pct. 46% 36%

Jabs: Lewis Klitschko
Landed 52 77
Thrown 120 240
Pct. 43% 32%

Power Punches
Lewis Klitschko
Landed 50 79
Thrown 102 192
Pct. 49% 41%

I didn't make these up! LOL, but the stats are pretty lop-sided, and the three judges were scoring against the reigning champ. That's why I say Lewis was getting whipped.

Well, those are impressive numbers, but at the fight's end, Lewis didnt show signs of, or look like a man who had been "whipped." Now Vitali on the otherhand... he looked like he had a rough night. So I guess sometimes numbers don't tell the whole story. And I dont mean to be sarcastic, I'm just telling like it is. I'm sure we have all seen the fight many times and have seen how both fighter looked after the fight.

These numbers are fake. Vitali landed 18 shots more than Lennox Lewis the whole fight, av of 3 per round.

[Snakey]

I honestly think Vitali was a better boxer after the lewis fight and would argue thats when his prime starts. And i think if anyone thinks that a prime Lewis would destroy a Prime Vitali then they really need to let Lennox have his balls back. Im not saying Vitali would win but i think it would be competetive.

[Snakey]

What I mean by "whipping" is defined by what I saw, which was clear to me. And it's backed up by all three scorecards 58-56 (4 rounds to 2) at the time of the stoppage. And here are the punch stats, which I think are pretty impressive and tell the tale.

Total Punches
Lewis Klitschko
Landed 102 156
Thrown 222 432
Pct. 46% 36%

Jabs: Lewis Klitschko
Landed 52 77
Thrown 120 240
Pct. 43% 32%

Power Punches
Lewis Klitschko
Landed 50 79
Thrown 102 192
Pct. 49% 41%

I didn't make these up! LOL, but the stats are pretty lop-sided, and the three judges were scoring against the reigning champ. That's why I say Lewis was getting whipped.

Well, those are impressive numbers, but at the fight's end, Lewis didnt show signs of, or look like a man who had been "whipped." Now Vitali on the otherhand... he looked like he had a rough night. So I guess sometimes numbers don't tell the whole story. And I dont mean to be sarcastic, I'm just telling like it is. I'm sure we have all seen the fight many times and have seen how both fighter looked after the fight.

These numbers are fake. Vitali landed 18 shots more than Lennox Lewis the whole fight, av of 3 per round.

It doesnt matter coz a prime Ruiz would of knocked out Lewis in 5 seconds, then Vitali would of fainted as soon as he saw Ruiz and Ruiz would of made his way to the back where he would of proceeded to bitch slap a prime George Foreman

[Fantana]

You know it Snakey. Like the banner I made which I showed to John Ruiz at the fight says

RUIZ NUMBER 1
ALI NUMBER 2

[Dave Hughey]

I wasn't going to post again on this thread because I thought I was beating the horse to death, and we are. But "Fantasy Ann" called the punch stats I posted fake. So I had to go back and find my references and here they are:

Lennox Lewis vs. Vitali Klitschko - Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia

That's from the boxrec boxing encyclopaedia.

Fantasy Ann, where'd you get yours? the Funny Papers? Why post garbage like that?

Also, I found the round 5 punch stats on the HBO video, part 4. Vitali was still out-punching Lewis 27 to 23 in Round 5. I couldn't get the round 6 stats.

[JonesJrMayweather]

I think lewis is great, but I wouldn't ride off so quickly saying Vitali doesn't belong. Vitali is a beast IMO. Came at the wrong time. Prime v Prime Vitaly beats, Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe, Mercer, Moorer, Grant, Tua, Ruiz, Botha, Buster douglass, Seldon, Berbick, McCall, Rahman, Bruno, Bowe, HW Spinks... If you're a Tyson fan and can't admit that, then at least one can admit that Vitaly would beat every champion that LEWIS, TYSON, HOLYFIELD all got their belts from prime v prime. Which at least puts him at the dinner table. and Honestly I think between Tyson, holy, lewis and Vitaly. Tyson would be 0-4, Holyfield 1-3, and Lewis or Vitaly would either be 3-1 or 4-0 __________________

[ryanman]

I think lewis is great, but I wouldn't ride off so quickly saying Vitali doesn't belong. Vitali is a beast IMO. Came at the wrong time. Prime v Prime Vitaly beats, Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe, Mercer, Moorer, Grant, Tua, Ruiz, Botha, Buster douglass, Seldon, Berbick, McCall, Rahman, Bruno, Bowe, HW Spinks... If you're a Tyson fan and can't admit that, then at least one can admit that Vitaly would beat every champion that LEWIS, TYSON, HOLYFIELD all got their belts from prime v prime. Which at least puts him at the dinner table. and Honestly I think between Tyson, holy, lewis and Vitaly. Tyson would be 0-4, Holyfield 1-3, and Lewis or Vitaly would either be 3-1 or 4-0 __________________

Haven't you already posted that exact same post?

[Fantana]

I wasn't going to post again on this thread because I thought I was beating the horse to death, and we are. But "Fantasy Ann" called the punch stats I posted fake. So I had to go back and find my references and here they are:

Lennox Lewis vs. Vitali Klitschko - Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia

That's from the boxrec boxing encyclopaedia.

Fantasy Ann, where'd you get yours? the Funny Papers? Why post garbage like that?

Also, I found the round 5 punch stats on the HBO video, part 4. Vitali was still out-punching Lewis 27 to 23 in Round 5. I couldn't get the round 6 stats.

I counted them myself. I am a mathematical genius, I don't need to go onto some shitty website and look at the numbers.

I'm like Carol Voderman only I have a better bikini line, and less of a moustache.

Also, for the man-record, Vitali could hit Lennox Lewis all day and all night, Lennox still would not have lost. Now, if John Ruiz would hit Lennox Lewis, Lennox Lewis would be knocked out. This is fact. It's a proven fact which aint been proved yet, and that is called science. You cannot argue with cold hard scientific facts.

[Dave Hughey]

LOL Fantasy. I get your drift. You are the Joker.

So I won't get upset and go check my references next time you call me a liar, or ......whatever.

Plus, I watched your video on Fantana.net. Made me laugh.

But, you should have more respect for your elders.

[JonesJrMayweather]

I think lewis is great, but I wouldn't ride off so quickly saying Vitali doesn't belong. Vitali is a beast IMO. Came at the wrong time. Prime v Prime Vitaly beats, Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe, Mercer, Moorer, Grant, Tua, Ruiz, Botha, Buster douglass, Seldon, Berbick, McCall, Rahman, Bruno, Bowe, HW Spinks... If you're a Tyson fan and can't admit that, then at least one can admit that Vitaly would beat every champion that LEWIS, TYSON, HOLYFIELD all got their belts from prime v prime. Which at least puts him at the dinner table. and Honestly I think between Tyson, holy, lewis and Vitaly. Tyson would be 0-4, Holyfield 1-3, and Lewis or Vitaly would either be 3-1 or 4-0 __________________

Haven't you already posted that exact same post?

Figured it would be easier than to just keep saying the same thing only slightly differently..