Old Super-Middleweight/Middleweight/Light Middleweight Threads

[JazMerkin]

I meant to vote NO on Sato/Lee, Manfredo & Rubio.

[JazMerkin]

I'm using my manager vote for Jermain Taylor. I'm gonna argue that he drops all the way to 10th, as we could have actually dropped him straight to the pool for 2 losses after his defeat to Abraham. Anyway, there's other guys who still deserve to be above him, so as good a fighter as he was, there's little evidence he's actually coming back, hence I feel the 10th spot should be his.

[killersheep]

I meant to hit 3 spots.

[Spicoli]

What has happened to the middleweights?Wow.Make way for Martinez but can only see Karmazin entering pool...have not seen Golovkin?Slim pickens really.

[killersheep]

Moore (154 pool) has suffered his second loss in a row, his two possible options mentioned in his post fight interview were retirement and moving up to 168, does he remain in the pool?

[TigerFan]

Drop him. Two losses in a row, one to a journeyman.

[TigerFan]

Golovkin talent-wise deserves to be there but his resume is lacking.

Don't know much about Sato apart from his one sided loss to Sturm so I voted no. Another good win and I'd vote him in.

Rubio's back to knocking guys out. Over the past two years he's beaten Alvarez, Ornelas, Cuevas and Zertuche. Apart from the Pavlik loss he's had a decent run at middle.

I almost voted for Manfredo but I'll wait and see how he does against Hernandez.

Karmazin gets my vote after his thrilling come from behind stoppage of Miranda.

[JazMerkin]

Due to the fact that Pavlik is fighting the man who is #1 in the division immediately below him, we have the option of a Saddo's Championship in this fight. I think this is worthy of Championship, as Martinez is better than all the guys at 160 bar Pavlik, Williams & possibly Sturm.

Anyway your thoughts?

[killersheep]

Should Pavlik/Martinez qualify for the Saddoboxing Middleweight Championship?

Yes (3 votes) : JazMerkin, Killersheep, markb018
No (1 vote) : Violent Demise

The fight qualifies as a Title fight by a vote of 3-1

[killersheep]

Which nominees qualify for Middleweight pool entry?

Gennady Golovkin
Yes (2 votes) : JazMerkin, Violent Demise
No (4 votes) : Galaxy, Killersheep, TigerFan (+1)

Sato/Lee winner
Yes (1 vote) : Killersheep
No (4 votes) : Galaxy, JazMerkin, TigerFan (+1)

Marco Antonio Rubio
Yes (3 votes) : Killersheep, TigerFan (+1)
No (2 votes) : Galaxy, JazMerkin

Peter Manfredo Jr.
Yes (0 votes) : N/A
No (5 votes) : Galaxy, JazMerkin, Killersheep, TigerFan (+1)

Roman Karmazin
Yes (6 votes) : Galaxy, JazMerkin, Killersheep, Spicoli, TigerFan (+1)
No (0 votes) : N/A

Marco Antonio Rubio and Roman Karmazin are voted into the pool

[killersheep]

Do we verify the merit of these middleweight pool members retaining their status

Amin Asikainen
Yes (0 votes) : N/A
No (6 votes) : Galaxy, JazMerkin, Killersheep, markb018, TigerFan (+1)

Dimitri Pirog
Yes (6 votes) : Galaxy, JazMerkin, Killersheep, markb018, TigerFan (+1)
No (0 votes) : N/A

Asikainen is dropped by a vote of 6-0

Pirog is Verified by a vote of 6-0

[killersheep]

Does Jamie Moore drop from the pool after two losses in a row?

Yes (6 votes) : Galaxy, JazMerkin (+1), Killersheep, TigerFan, Violent Demise
No (0 votes) : N/A

Moore drops from the pool by a vote of 6-0

[killersheep]

JazMerkin's manager vote for April
Retroacting rule of 2 losses against Jermain Taylor

Keeps 7th ranking (0 votes) : N/A
Drops 1 place to 8th (1 vote) : Galaxy
Drops 2 places to 9th (2 votes) : markb018, Violent Demise
Drops 3 places to 10th (4 votes) : JazMerkin, Killersheep, Spicoli, TigerFan

Taylor drops 3 places to 10th place by a vote of 4-2-1-0

[killersheep]

Do we reverify these pool members?

David Lopez - Boxer hasn't fought since 4/10/09 where he won against Ossie Duran both came in a 1/2 pound over the limit, before that Lopez hasn't fought at 154 since 2001. His next scheduled fight is at 160.

Sergio Mora - Boxer his last fight was at middleweight (actually over limit) on 4/3/10. His last 154 fight was a loss to Vernon Forrest (RIP) on 9/13/08

[killersheep]

Ok here are the potential candidates.

The winner of Antonio Margarito - Boxer vs. Roberto Garcia - Boxer on 5/8/10. - Margarito is back from his suspension and moves up to Light Middle to try to get his career back on track. Garcia is trying to get a marquee win.

Joe Greene - Boxer - 2004 National Golden Gloves champ, only 24 years old, been absolutely dominant where he should be dominant, doesn't have any big names on his resume, but the potential is there.

Erislandy Lara - Boxer - Cuban National Champ 2000, 2005, 2006 and 2007, Gold Medalist Central American Games 2006. Every one of his fights has been televised he is moving up to fighters with recognizable names as a last stop before going for some titles.

The winner of Shawn Porter - Boxer vs. Raul Pinzon - Boxer - Porter was the 2007 National Golden Gloves champ, a 2008 Olympic alternate. Pinzon is a typical Colombian power punching specialist with only one of his victories going the distance (94% of victories coming by way of stoppage.

Nobuhiro Ishida - Boxer - Ishida is currently holding the mandatory (interim) status for the WBA (Yuri Foreman's title), he has also in the past held the Japanese and OBPF Light Middleweight titles.