The Ring is rewarding Donaire for not taking on challenges. Sure he beat Darchinyan but atleast Vic has never backed down from a challenge. If Donaire had taken on Mijares, Arce, Agbeko, Gorres etc, there is a good chance he'd have lost by now too.
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The Ring is rewarding Donaire for not taking on challenges. Sure he beat Darchinyan but atleast Vic has never backed down from a challenge. If Donaire had taken on Mijares, Arce, Agbeko, Gorres etc, there is a good chance he'd have lost by now too.
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Dan Rafael also dropped BHOP in his light-heavyweight rankings noting that Hopkins "stock dropped significantly, especially after Jones went the distance just a few months after Danny Green had drilled him in one round."
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I don't agree with him being so high with guys like Chad Dawson around, but he is a really good fighter, much better than crap fighters like Caballero.
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How is he better than Caballero? Resume comparison? Activity? Skill level?Originally Posted by Taeth
Donaire has timing, but ALL of his credit is based off of one punch against Vic, one-punch does not a great fighter make. He is a good boxer, but I don't see why you would go after Caballero in your attack, Caballero has done much more.
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Agreed. Caballero has a much better resume than Donaire, though you could conceivably argue that Donaire has a superior skill-set, which is the problem with the subjective nature of P4P lists. Personally, I almost always favor a fighters resume over his perceived skill level.How is he better than Caballero? Resume comparison? Activity? Skill level?
Donaire has timing, but ALL of his credit is based off of one punch against Vic, one-punch does not a great fighter make. He is a good boxer, but I don't see why you would go after Caballero in your attack, Caballero has done much more.
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In some senses Caballero has done more, in others he has been embarrassed by inferior opposition than Donaire. I go after Caballero because he is a worse farse than Margarito or Miranda. I am waiting for the day that Guillermo Rigondeaux or some of the actually talented fighters at 122-126 get the oppertunity to face Caballero because he is a C level fighter.How is he better than Caballero? Resume comparison? Activity? Skill level?
Donaire has timing, but ALL of his credit is based off of one punch against Vic, one-punch does not a great fighter make. He is a good boxer, but I don't see why you would go after Caballero in your attack, Caballero has done much more.
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Embarressed because he got caught once? Or because he lost to an elite level Cordoba? I know you love your Rigondeaux, but that has nothing to do with Donaire and his lack of a resume. I mean Donaire's last opponent is a strawweight, you can't get around that, he's a good strawweight, but still a strawweight. Caballero was the first to beat de Leon, he unified two belts at super bantam against a ring rated fighter, and now he's fighting for a title at feather, Caballero has more than made up for his losses with his recent activity.In some senses Caballero has done more, in others he has been embarrassed by inferior opposition than Donaire. I go after Caballero because he is a worse farse than Margarito or Miranda. I am waiting for the day that Guillermo Rigondeaux or some of the actually talented fighters at 122-126 get the oppertunity to face Caballero because he is a C level fighter.How is he better than Caballero? Resume comparison? Activity? Skill level?
Donaire has timing, but ALL of his credit is based off of one punch against Vic, one-punch does not a great fighter make. He is a good boxer, but I don't see why you would go after Caballero in your attack, Caballero has done much more.
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I thought Donaire was embarrassed against a 13-3-1 club fighter in Rafael Concepcion who not only took him the distance but was pretty much winning the fight until the later rounds. Can you name any 13-3-1 fighter in any other weight class in all of boxing that would trouble another p4p star like that?In some senses Caballero has done more, in others he has been embarrassed by inferior opposition than Donaire. I go after Caballero because he is a worse farse than Margarito or Miranda. I am waiting for the day that Guillermo Rigondeaux or some of the actually talented fighters at 122-126 get the oppertunity to face Caballero because he is a C level fighter.How is he better than Caballero? Resume comparison? Activity? Skill level?
Donaire has timing, but ALL of his credit is based off of one punch against Vic, one-punch does not a great fighter make. He is a good boxer, but I don't see why you would go after Caballero in your attack, Caballero has done much more.
His inclusion in the p4p rankings is even more bizarre than Mijares.
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To be fair Concepcion was 4 1/2 pounds over the limit. That's a lot of pounds to be over the limit and that is an significant advantage especially for the really low weight classes.I thought Donaire was embarrassed against a 13-3-1 club fighter in Rafael Concepcion who not only took him the distance but was pretty much winning the fight until the later rounds. Can you name any 13-3-1 fighter in any other weight class in all of boxing that would trouble another p4p star like that?In some senses Caballero has done more, in others he has been embarrassed by inferior opposition than Donaire. I go after Caballero because he is a worse farse than Margarito or Miranda. I am waiting for the day that Guillermo Rigondeaux or some of the actually talented fighters at 122-126 get the oppertunity to face Caballero because he is a C level fighter.
His inclusion in the p4p rankings is even more bizarre than Mijares.
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He's a cut above any of those guys.
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What a constructive first post.....Be happy!
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donaire already has 1 loss in his record. 23(15 kos) - 1 - 0
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