Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
PBF vs Winky is just a slow chess match boring fight...Winky's defense was extremely good and he has a good chin. I actually think who wins this match comes down to what gloves they use....if Winky gets his big old ear muffs I think PBF couldn't hurt him with those gloves and Winky's defense would be so tight it would be hard to make a dent.

I think the Vernon Forrest that fought Shane was one of the more dangerous fighters of that era. That big right cross of his was trouble for lots of guys. Before he had his shoulder injury he was very dangerous
I think Vernon came back nicely after the injury wasn't an issue anymore. He actually became a fighter I enjoyed watching. It was amazing watching him crack Baldomir and seeing how it had 0 effect on Tata. And the first Mora fight was good (didn't see the 2nd).

But I think PBF could have beaten the version of Forest that beat Mosley. Shane has this way of looking like he's given up with his body language. I thought he was bedazzled by the cut in the first fight but fought back to barely lose, but in the 2nd it seemed like he knew Forest had his number. He did the same in the 2 Wright fights. I don't think Mosley has anything but a really good A plan whereas PBF can come up with a B, C, D, etc. on the fly.

I think Floyd would have killed Forest with counters and surprise attacks, but Forest's punch 'n clinch action would have made it close. And I think Floyd would have worked to split Wright's guard in a more offensive effort. He wouldn't have wasted shots to the body simply out of fear of breaking a hand on Wink's elbows.