Floyd v that Forrest/Winky

[RozzySean]

Forrest would have been a tougher fight than Oscar because Forrest has great right to go along with the jab. Floyd countered with rights over the jab without fear of a meaningful right hand following behind it. Oscar's right has improved, but it is nothing like Forrest's right cross at it's best.

Don't minimize the size difference. Hopkins was able to get in those right hands because he had size and reach to do it. Wright at 154 was bigger, better fighter than Oscar at 154. Plus, he's a southpaw. Floyd has some success doing the things you talked about, for sure, but it would still end up a clear decision for Winky.

[Taeth]

Forrest would have been a tougher fight than Oscar because Forrest has great right to go along with the jab. Floyd countered with rights over the jab without fear of a meaningful right hand following behind it. Oscar's right has improved, but it is nothing like Forrest's right cross at it's best.

Don't minimize the size difference. Hopkins was able to get in those right hands because he had size and reach to do it. Wright at 154 was bigger, better fighter than Oscar at 154. Plus, he's a southpaw. Floyd has some success doing the things you talked about, for sure, but it would still end up a clear decision for Winky.

Hopkins wasn't using his height against Winky at all, and Wright was a really good fighter, but not a better one than Oscar, I think they came up pretty even against similar competition.

It was Oscar's speed which was superior to Winky's in every facet except maybe one punch handspeed.

As for Forest I agree he would be dangerous for Floyd, but Floyd is great at blocking the right cross his left shoulder, He wouldn't throw after the jab in most cases against Forest unless it was with a jab of his own, he would wait for Forest's one-two then counter with a right hand or move quickly out of the way then out jab/potshot Forest with quick straight punches whereas Mosely was trying to leap in with hooks from way too far out.

Mayweather has never had a problems against height/size, in fact he likes it more because it increases his advantage in speed and he is able shoot his jab to the body easier which sets up everything else.

The two things that Oscar really had that kept Mayweather at bay in many circumstances that these two don't is 1. He's always had great power in his left hook which had the capability of changing a fight with anyone, Forest hit hard but besides the first Mosley fight his power wasn't that impressive, and Winky had thudding power, but couldn't knock anyone out at the top level of hte sport. The other thing is that Oscar was a great combination puncher, he kept Floyd on the ropes by throwing 6-7 punches in a row, and even though they missed thats how Oscar won rounds, without those combinations with Floyd on the ropes Oscar wouldn't have won a round, and he is as fast if not faster than Winky and Forest, and he's around their size, and he employed good defensive skills against Floyd.

[JazMerkin]

I think Mayweather would beat Forrest & that it would be more comfortable than people think. I think Shane could have beaten Forrest, but he fought stupidly in both fights. I think Vernon was an excellent fighter, but I felt Mosley gave those away by not having a plan b in those fights.

Winky would probably beat Floyd, like RozzySean says its a bad style matchup in all senses as well as a distinct size disadvantage. I think it might be competitive enough that Floyd could sneak a debatable SD on the cards, but I think most would see it as a loss.