Should smokers and binge drinkers be charged for using the NHS?

[Gandalf]

Yeah, it's an interesting one and I hadn't really considered it before. Also from articles I have read binge drinking appears to be particularly out of control in the UK. A penalty for emergency care brought on by binge drinking might provide an incentive to moderate behaviour and to consider the impact it has. Like I say, I do binge drink myself (but never to the state where I am passing out) and would quite happily cough up if it went to far and led to me being hospitalised. I don't see why society as a whole should cover the cost of self excess.

HTH, you aren't possibly trying to tell me that you think gays should recieve life extending AID's medicine courtesy of the NHS!?

[ono]

I believe that smoking and alcohol consumption should be made illegal. Causes more widespread damage to more people than recreational drugs. It's a huge problem. I don't go out that much on a weekend anymore, but decided to go out into Manchester after the Haye fight. I saw a piss head booting someone in the head whilst he was on the floor and a little later on i saw a man laying down out cold, on his own in the rain.

Of course it will never happen but imo it's a problem

[HattonTheHammer]

I believe that smoking and alcohol consumption should be made illegal. Causes more widespread damage to more people than recreational drugs. It's a huge problem. I don't go out that much on a weekend anymore, but decided to go out into Manchester after the Haye fight. I saw a piss head booting someone in the head whilst he was on the floor and a little later on i saw a man laying down out cold, on his own in the rain.

Of course it will never happen but imo it's a problem

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Ive got no friends therefore have never tried either thing but would much prefer it to be outlawed so nobody can ever have a good time again.

weirdo

[ono]

I believe that smoking and alcohol consumption should be made illegal. Causes more widespread damage to more people than recreational drugs. It's a huge problem. I don't go out that much on a weekend anymore, but decided to go out into Manchester after the Haye fight. I saw a piss head booting someone in the head whilst he was on the floor and a little later on i saw a man laying down out cold, on his own in the rain.

Of course it will never happen but imo it's a problem

=

Ive got no friends therefore have never tried either thing but would much prefer it to be outlawed so nobody can ever have a good time again.

weirdo

For stating that alcohol abuse and tobacco abuse is a bigger drain on NHS resources than recreational drugs? Not sure how that adds up.

I don't want to outlaw anything, but seen as though we do, my point was, if recreational drugs are outlawed because they are deemed dangerous, then surely alcohol and tobacco are more dangerous, therefore should be illegal.

I know, it's a logical thought process and i understand because there isn't a 'SUN Campaign' against it, you'll have trouble getting your head around it.

[HattonTheHammer]

I believe that smoking and alcohol consumption should be made illegal. Causes more widespread damage to more people than recreational drugs. It's a huge problem. I don't go out that much on a weekend anymore, but decided to go out into Manchester after the Haye fight. I saw a piss head booting someone in the head whilst he was on the floor and a little later on i saw a man laying down out cold, on his own in the rain.

Of course it will never happen but imo it's a problem

=

Ive got no friends therefore have never tried either thing but would much prefer it to be outlawed so nobody can ever have a good time again.

weirdo

For stating that alcohol abuse and tobacco abuse is a bigger drain on NHS resources than recreational drugs? Not sure how that adds up.

I don't want to outlaw anything, but seen as though we do, my point was, if recreational drugs are outlawed because they are deemed dangerous, then surely alcohol and tobacco are more dangerous, therefore should be illegal.

I know, it's a logical thought process and i understand because there isn't a 'SUN Campaign' against it, you'll have trouble getting your head around it.

From what your originally post:

You think alcohol and tobacco should be outlawed = grown adults should no longer be able to enjoy themselves

i dont go out much anymore = potential loner

when i was out i saw someone get there head kicked in = the consequence of alcohol agreed, but we are not all out to cause trouble. Just the 18year olds who cant handle there shandys getting the f*ck kicked out of them

[ono]

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Ive got no friends therefore have never tried either thing but would much prefer it to be outlawed so nobody can ever have a good time again.

weirdo

For stating that alcohol abuse and tobacco abuse is a bigger drain on NHS resources than recreational drugs? Not sure how that adds up.

I don't want to outlaw anything, but seen as though we do, my point was, if recreational drugs are outlawed because they are deemed dangerous, then surely alcohol and tobacco are more dangerous, therefore should be illegal.

I know, it's a logical thought process and i understand because there isn't a 'SUN Campaign' against it, you'll have trouble getting your head around it.

From what your originally post:

You think alcohol and tobacco should be outlawed = grown adults should no longer be able to enjoy themselves

i dont go out much anymore = potential loner

when i was out i saw someone get there head kicked in = the consequence of alcohol agreed, but we are not all out to cause trouble. Just the 18year olds who cant handle there shandys getting the f*ck kicked out of them

No i explained my point that i believed alcohol and tobacco to be more dangerous than other recreational drugs. Not sure how that equates to 'grown adults' (as you eloquently put) no longer being able to enjoy themselves. Unless of course you require alcohol to enjoy yourself. If you do, you have my sincerest condolences.

I actually said i don't go out much at a weekend, you know, as in nights out on the town. Again, if that makes me a potential loner, then so be it. It's a small price to pay to avoid spending my nights with drunken reprobates like yourself

[JazMerkin]

Hammer you dancer

[AdamGB]

hahaha 'sun campaign'... Love it

As far as paying for smoke related illness, I agree in theory but like nameless has said there are too many ifs and buts for any sort of fair system.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Yeah, it's an interesting one and I hadn't really considered it before. Also from articles I have read binge drinking appears to be particularly out of control in the UK. A penalty for emergency care brought on by binge drinking might provide an incentive to moderate behaviour and to consider the impact it has. Like I say, I do binge drink myself (but never to the state where I am passing out) and would quite happily cough up if it went to far and led to me being hospitalised. I don't see why society as a whole should cover the cost of self excess.

HTH, you aren't possibly trying to tell me that you think gays should recieve life extending AID's medicine courtesy of the NHS!?

Now if you were asking Bilbo or HTH if those gays should then be allowed to use army showers...

[HattonTheHammer]

Yeah, it's an interesting one and I hadn't really considered it before. Also from articles I have read binge drinking appears to be particularly out of control in the UK. A penalty for emergency care brought on by binge drinking might provide an incentive to moderate behaviour and to consider the impact it has. Like I say, I do binge drink myself (but never to the state where I am passing out) and would quite happily cough up if it went to far and led to me being hospitalised. I don't see why society as a whole should cover the cost of self excess.

HTH, you aren't possibly trying to tell me that you think gays should recieve life extending AID's medicine courtesy of the NHS!?

I believe they should be allowed to the same rights that normal straight people have

As long as they arent allowed back into society to spread such diseases by working with food or other such things ive no problem whatsoever!!

[ryanman]

Yeah, it's an interesting one and I hadn't really considered it before. Also from articles I have read binge drinking appears to be particularly out of control in the UK. A penalty for emergency care brought on by binge drinking might provide an incentive to moderate behaviour and to consider the impact it has. Like I say, I do binge drink myself (but never to the state where I am passing out) and would quite happily cough up if it went to far and led to me being hospitalised. I don't see why society as a whole should cover the cost of self excess.

HTH, you aren't possibly trying to tell me that you think gays should recieve life extending AID's medicine courtesy of the NHS!?

I believe they should be allowed to the same rights that normal straight people have

As long as they arent allowed back into society to spread such diseases by working with food or other such things ive no problem whatsoever!!

Haha, a classic Hammerism.

[ryanman]

The thing is even if you believe smokers/drinkers etc shouldn't get treated on the NHS its a question of defination. Whats a binge drinker for instance? Or if you have one cigarette a week (unlikely I know) then coincidently get lung cancer should you then be classified as a smoker and thus denyed free treatment?