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Once again it has always been SHANE'S choice not to fight Mayweather. Not the other way around Shane being 38 when he fights Floyd is on him.

And did you really just say Oscar was Out of Shape when he fought Mayweather?

Seriously?
Polly can have a cracker for that recycled nonsense....

and yeah oscar wasn't in shape..he was old and fading. his optimum weight was 147...so by the the time floyd got to him he was too old to be effective at 154 and too fat to get down to 147..

Oscar hadn't fought at 147 in around 5 years before he came up against Mayweather and was in great shape for that fight.

Oscar was the one whom picked the weight class, the gloves, the ring, it was his promotion.

If you think Oscar was out of shape and spent at 154 when he fought Mayweather then you're extremely reaching. Why would Oscar have been better prepared at 147 when he hadn't fought there in 5 years and had already shown he could fight at 154 effectively not to mention his last performance being a domination of Ricardo Mayorga where he dropped him violently in the first round.

Yes Oscar looked completely spent before the Mayweather fight?

Oscar only started looking bad when after that he tried to move back down to 147 and he looked absolutely crap against Steve Forbes and then fought Pacquiao who finished off what was left.

The last fight Oscar was live in was the Floyd fight where he had every advantage over Floyd like I said, ring, promotion, gloves, and weight class not to mention Oscar's title.

So if you think Oscar at 154 against Mayweather was just an out of shape shell you'll reaching greatly to take credit away from that victory.

People that don't give Mayweather enough credit are called 'haters' yet people that try to give him too much credit are called 'nuthuggers'.

In my opinion trying to insinuate that Oscar was spent and out of shape shell of himself in their 154 pound matchup is a 'hater' comment. He should get full credit for that win thats the last time we saw a live Oscar De La Hoya before he tried moving down and looked like crap. Up until that point the only time he looked bad was at 160 when he WAS out of shape against Sturm.
Talking about not giving credit and reaching...Oscar looked out of shape against Sturm because he was getting his ass whooped and underestimated a bigger "lesser" opponent. Nevertheless Oscar was still fighting too high and just trying to make money at that point. Same with the fights against Mayorga ( who hadn't fought in nearly a year and was ruined by Tito) everyone knows that was just a fight set up to promote oscar as being "legit" for floyd. Which also brings me to my next point. No one blames Floyd for fighting oscar, because anyone that could make weight against oscar would cash in, but oscar was basically 1-3, (2-2) if you count the bs decision he got over Sturm, before he faced floyd. The same with the fight against Forbes it was nothing more than a bs set up fight to promote oscar to the public as being "legit" for Pacquioa because the last time he fought he lost.

Floyd gets all credit for being a very smart boxer/businessman. all credit since moving up against gatti, judah, mitchell, baldomir... but it leaves a lot of questions when there was cotto, margarito, williams, or mosley (then). Because there is no justification in fighting baldomir, and please with the he was lineal champ because according to floyd he doesn't fight for belts because they only collect dust...and that fight wasn't PPV whereas the other three surely would have been, so money certainly wasn't the reason. Isn't that clear that floyd handpicked the easiest opponent at WW that he could find?