I hope people wont say "O mosley was old"

[generalbulldog]

I think Majesty has a point. If someone is picking Mosley to win don't use some excuse later like say Mosley was old as an excuse if he loses.

Not going to mention names, but when Pacquiao beat Cotto, the same people that predicted Cotto would ko Pac later said Pacquiao beat a shot fighter, that was an excuse to discredit that win, they didn't say he was a shot fighter before the fight, but after the fight that was the excused used.

If you're making a prediction on the guy stick to it don't use some sorry excuse later on if the fighter you're backing loses.

I have to say I agree.

[Galaxy]

I think Majesty has a point. If someone is picking Mosley to win don't use some excuse later like say Mosley was old as an excuse if he loses.

Not going to mention names, but when Pacquiao beat Cotto, the same people that predicted Cotto would ko Pac later said Pacquiao beat a shot fighter, that was an excuse to discredit that win, they didn't say he was a shot fighter before the fight, but after the fight that was the excused used.

If you're making a prediction on the guy stick to it don't use some sorry excuse later on if the fighter you're backing loses.

I have to say I agree.

Exactly, I picked Cotto to beat Pacman & when Pacquiao dominated him I was amazed!!! All credit to Pacquiao in that fight, now though going into the Foreman fight I feel Cotto is on the slide.

In this fight though I think Mosley although not at his peak is still at an elite level & a huge risk for Mayweather...

[Dizaster]

I think Majesty has a point. If someone is picking Mosley to win don't use some excuse later like say Mosley was old as an excuse if he loses.

Not going to mention names, but when Pacquiao beat Cotto, the same people that predicted Cotto would ko Pac later said Pacquiao beat a shot fighter, that was an excuse to discredit that win, they didn't say he was a shot fighter before the fight, but after the fight that was the excused used.

If you're making a prediction on the guy stick to it don't use some sorry excuse later on if the fighter you're backing loses.

I have to say I agree.

I get where you are saying it's wrong..

Like if you said Cotto is going to beat Pac, and the afterwards say Cotto was shot,,, to discredit the win, then that's crap....

But for someone to genuinely think something, like how Galaxy thought Cotto would really trouble Pac, but then after the fight be able to say "you know what, Cotto was a shot fighter", I don't think there is a single thing wrong with that at all.. Unless it's to discredit the win, by saying that Cotto was no challenge and Pac shouldn't be proud of it.... In that case, you are being a douche and flipping your opinion to take something away from someone..

But otherwise, you are just using hindsight to rectify a perception you had before a fight, vs after it.

[blegit]

I think Majesty has a point. If someone is picking Mosley to win don't use some excuse later like say Mosley was old as an excuse if he loses.

Not going to mention names, but when Pacquiao beat Cotto, the same people that predicted Cotto would ko Pac later said Pacquiao beat a shot fighter, that was an excuse to discredit that win, they didn't say he was a shot fighter before the fight, but after the fight that was the excused used.

If you're making a prediction on the guy stick to it don't use some sorry excuse later on if the fighter you're backing loses.

I have to say I agree.

I get where you are saying it's wrong..

Like if you said Cotto is going to beat Pac, and the afterwards say Cotto was shot,,, to discredit the win, then that's crap....

But for someone to genuinely think something, like how Galaxy thought Cotto would really trouble Pac, but then after the fight be able to say "you know what, Cotto was a shot fighter", I don't think there is a single thing wrong with that at all.. Unless it's to discredit the win, by saying that Cotto was no challenge and Pac shouldn't be proud of it.... In that case, you are being a douche and flipping your opinion to take something away from someone..

But otherwise, you are just using hindsight to rectify a perception you had before a fight, vs after it.

Actually Dizaster is very accurate. Hindsight tells us a lot but mostly with fights people use it as an excuse for why things didn't go as planned. But in order to see if a fighter is shot or aged you have to see it in a fight. How else can you really tell? I personally don't hang out with these guys so I don't know what they are looking like in sparring or training. But when Mayweather is on he actually makes everybody look old or overmatched so naturally it will be said Mosley was too old. Just like people said Marquez wasn't effective at 147. Marquez fought one welterweight and it was against the absolute toughest guy to look good against. But somehow we get the conclusion that Marquez couldn't carry the weight. The same goes with Pacquiao/Cotto though Cotto's situation is a little different. The writing was on the wall even Roach said it after the Clottey fight. But if Cotto was damaged goods Pacquiao is the guy who will show it because he is about the most explosive and relentless guy in boxing. So if you can no longer take damaging blows it will surely tell in a Pacquiao fight. And if you are too old it will surely tell in a Mayweather fight. Not to take anything away from either Pac or Mayweather but you can not be damaged or slipping to deal with them.

[JonesJrMayweather]

You can pick mosley and still acknowledge the fact that he's old. Old as fuck for boxing esp in a division where speed and reflexes are normally the dominant physical attributes. Nothing anyone says is going to change the fact that Shane is 39. This is the double edge sword of picking opponents that Floyd has brought on himself. It's a win/win for Shane because if he goes in and fights a close competitive fight at 39 many will say he'd easily beat floyd in his prime. If he wins, then he's almost like George Foreman if not better because Moorer wasn't p4p number 1. And before the Floyd parrots, and ostrich supporters with their head up his ass respond with recycled "Pretty Propaganda"

It was floyd that dismissed shane as a steroid using sparring partner with five losses. But after being a moron with his money and fucking up the pacman fight under the bullshit pretense of cleaning up the sport all while conveniently forgetting that he reneged on a contract against JMM about an agreed upon weight. Mr. Honorable indeed. So after his bullshit costs him the biggest purse since Oscar he's forced to face OLD Shane Mosley who may still end up whooping his ass and put a huge dent in his little ego.

[DaxxKahn]

You can pick mosley and still acknowledge the fact that he's old. Old as fuck for boxing esp in a division where speed and reflexes are normally the dominant physical attributes. Nothing anyone says is going to change the fact that Shane is 39. This is the double edge sword of picking opponents that Floyd has brought on himself. It's a win/win for Shane because if he goes in and fights a close competitive fight at 39 many will say he'd easily beat floyd in his prime. If he wins, then he's almost like George Foreman if not better because Moorer wasn't p4p number 1. And before the Floyd parrots, and ostrich supporters with their head up his ass respond with recycled "Pretty Propaganda"

It was floyd that dismissed shane as a steroid using sparring partner with five losses. But after being a moron with his money and fucking up the pacman fight under the bullshit pretense of cleaning up the sport all while conveniently forgetting that he reneged on a contract against JMM about an agreed upon weight. Mr. Honorable indeed. So after his bullshit costs him the biggest purse since Oscar he's forced to face OLD Shane Mosley who may still end up whooping his ass and put a huge dent in his little ego.

...............Wow mate

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I'm glad this thread was made. Not because of the point the initial post made but because of the conclusions that come of it.

I'm glad that we can now clearly seperate just plain 'Shane is old' from 'If Shane looses, I will discredit Mayweather's win because Shane is old'.

The fact is Shane is old but deserves to be in the ring with Floyd. If Shane has a bad performance, age might appear to be a factor to him but it we won't know if it matters to Floyd

Just for the record, I think Shane is old and that he will win

[mad_takamura]

Oh shane was old.

[Fenster]

Doesn't matter what Floyd fans say the haters have a win/win fight on their hands.

Shane only has to be half-competitive to persuade most he would have beaten Floyd when younger.

[JonesJrMayweather]

Doesn't matter what Floyd fans say the haters have a win/win fight on their hands.

Shane only has to be competitive to persuade most he would have beaten Floyd when younger.

You're absolutely correct. But I'm not a Floyd hater and don't need Shane to fight close to be convinced that prime vs prime Shane walks through Floyd.

Always been a Floyd supporter. Always been a Mosley supporter.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Doesn't matter what Floyd fans say the haters have a win/win fight on their hands.

Shane only has to be half-competitive to persuade most he would have beaten Floyd when younger.

I'd have to remind em that Floyd isn't exactly young himself

[DaxxKahn]

He wins this he deserves credit for the win I mean this is Shane Mosley...Even a past it Mosley is better then most guys could ever hope to be....

Mosley is certainly a tougher opp...Or I think a better way to phrase it would be....

Mosley is a more high risk opp then

Marquez
Hatton
Baldomir
Judah
Mitchell
Gatti
Bruseles
Corley
N'dou.....

His last 9 opp leaving out DLH

Of those guys listed none were prime when Mayweather best them and in the divisions there were tougher fights for sure at the time..

Mosleys last 5 were

Margarito
Mayorga
Cotto
Collazo
Vargas...

He lost to Cotto Vargas was past it and Mayorga is well...Mayorga not expected to win against guys like Mosley but still tough...

So not as if Mosley has been fighting second raters and looking good because of that fact...

There is nothing that Mosley has done to make anyone be able to say he was old etc if he loses...

[Dark Lord Al]

I think Majesty has a point. If someone is picking Mosley to win don't use some excuse later like say Mosley was old as an excuse if he loses.

Not going to mention names, but when Pacquiao beat Cotto, the same people that predicted Cotto would ko Pac later said Pacquiao beat a shot fighter, that was an excuse to discredit that win, they didn't say he was a shot fighter before the fight, but after the fight that was the excused used.

If you're making a prediction on the guy stick to it don't use some sorry excuse later on if the fighter you're backing loses.

I have to say I agree.

My first post says simply , if 39 isnt old for a WW / LMW then what is old ?
its a question , one which nobody has answerwed !

and i stick to the fact Mosley aged 39 will win .

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

I'm gonna say that I want Shane to win, no doubt... I want him to Nonito Donaire Mayweathers ass and just catch him with a clean ass punch that knocks the taste out of his mouth... But Mosley will look old against Mayweather. I can see it now. Mayweather is not going to give him the extra second to connect like he did against Margarito. Margarito made Mosley look like the fastest guy on the planet. Mosley is quick but he will be countered effectivley all night. I hate Mayweather but I'll call it like I see it. I think Mosley has been on the solid decline fore sometime and, in fact, his speech is being effected. As quick as Mosley looks, Mayweather will be much faster. I hate Mayweather and love Mosley but people are getting their hopes up for yet another one sided fight. I want nothing better than to see Floyd go down in flames... If this fight happened 5 or 6 years ago... Maybe. But not now.

[fan johnny]

Shane is old but he has that toughness which shows us his true grit. I guess Foreman started "it", albeit the heavyweight field was crap when he regained the title. Old doesn't mean you're done. Boxing doesn't have the worlds most gifted athletes competing so sometimes that savvy wisdom can prevail over younger, stronger, faster and even those with more heart.