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    Default Re: 25 years on and still the greatest fight ever IMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    No disrespect but i think this is an overrated fight, the 1st round was amazing no question. But then Marvin Hagler basically took over, Because Tommy Hearns legs were gone, and he had broke his right hand.

    It was great for its time and there both great fighters, but there's been many better shorter fights than this. And many better fights overall.

    For example Jose Luis Ramirez vs Edwin Rosario 2 went 4 rounds, and was a better fight IMO, and more dramatic.
    have to disagree too

    overrated is one word I would not use for this fight.

    I've never seen anything like it - Gatti fights et al. Guess the fact that it was two boxing superstars at their peak adds a lot of clout - but then again thats what made it all the more enthralling (good word that).

    As Larry Merchant said of the fight , and still does now, 'Nobody breathed for eight minutes'. Am not Larry's biggest fan but I can certainly understand that
    Well it is overrated due to the fact, people call it the greatest action fight of all time when that clearly isn't true. Yes it had one great round, but the others Marvin Hagler was in control of despite the cut.

    Mark i could give you 10 fights right now, that are better fights. And if you watched them over a course of a week, i guarantee you would enjoy them more. Because i don't think you've seen them so it would be like watching it live.

    Kevin Kelley vs Troy Dorsey
    Kevin Kelley vs Derrick Gainer 1
    Matthew Saad Muhammad vs Marvin Johnson 1
    Matthew Saad Muhammad vs Yaqui Lopez 2
    Bobby Chacon vs Rafael Limon 4
    Bobby Chacon vs Cornelius Boza Edwards 2
    Michael Moorer vs Bert Cooper
    Charles Williams vs Merqui Sosa 1 or 2
    Wilfredo Gomez vs Lupe Pintor
    Kelvin Seabrooks vs Thierry Jacob

    And i didn't even have to really think about that list either, there's plenty of better fights treat yourself to these classics.
    One of the reasons people think its better than any of those fights , is the magnitude of both participants , not many people out of boxing would know many off your list.
    But as ever its a matter of opinion.
    Last edited by Dark Lord Al; 04-15-2010 at 05:02 PM.

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    Default Re: 25 years on and still the greatest fight ever IMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO View Post

    have to disagree too

    overrated is one word I would not use for this fight.

    I've never seen anything like it - Gatti fights et al. Guess the fact that it was two boxing superstars at their peak adds a lot of clout - but then again thats what made it all the more enthralling (good word that).

    As Larry Merchant said of the fight , and still does now, 'Nobody breathed for eight minutes'. Am not Larry's biggest fan but I can certainly understand that
    Well it is overrated due to the fact, people call it the greatest action fight of all time when that clearly isn't true. Yes it had one great round, but the others Marvin Hagler was in control of despite the cut.

    Mark i could give you 10 fights right now, that are better fights. And if you watched them over a course of a week, i guarantee you would enjoy them more. Because i don't think you've seen them so it would be like watching it live.

    Kevin Kelley vs Troy Dorsey
    Kevin Kelley vs Derrick Gainer 1
    Matthew Saad Muhammad vs Marvin Johnson 1
    Matthew Saad Muhammad vs Yaqui Lopez 2
    Bobby Chacon vs Rafael Limon 4
    Bobby Chacon vs Cornelius Boza Edwards 2
    Michael Moorer vs Bert Cooper
    Charles Williams vs Merqui Sosa 1 or 2
    Wilfredo Gomez vs Lupe Pintor
    Kelvin Seabrooks vs Thierry Jacob

    And i didn't even have to really think about that list either, there's plenty of better fights treat yourself to these classics.
    One of the reasons people think its better than any of those fights , is the magnitude of both participants , not many people out of boxing would know many off your list.
    But as ever its a matter of opinion.
    Yea i agree but i tend to forget how big of a name a boxer is, and just rate it on the action alone.

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    Default Re: 25 years on and still the greatest fight ever IMO.

    Nobody breathed for 40 minutes in the Castillo v corrales first fight...
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    Default Re: 25 years on and still the greatest fight ever IMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    Nobody breathed for 40 minutes in the Castillo v corrales first fight...
    I agree that this is a great fight , probably has more twists and turns ,
    but Hagler v Hearns was massive and im sure many none boxing fans watched and enjoyed the hype and fight.
    Thats why historically its THE FIGHT .
    But if you are into boxing , then yes there are many great fights out there.

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    Default Re: 25 years on and still the greatest fight ever IMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO View Post

    have to disagree too

    overrated is one word I would not use for this fight.

    I've never seen anything like it - Gatti fights et al. Guess the fact that it was two boxing superstars at their peak adds a lot of clout - but then again thats what made it all the more enthralling (good word that).

    As Larry Merchant said of the fight , and still does now, 'Nobody breathed for eight minutes'. Am not Larry's biggest fan but I can certainly understand that
    Well it is overrated due to the fact, people call it the greatest action fight of all time when that clearly isn't true. Yes it had one great round, but the others Marvin Hagler was in control of despite the cut.

    Mark i could give you 10 fights right now, that are better fights. And if you watched them over a course of a week, i guarantee you would enjoy them more. Because i don't think you've seen them so it would be like watching it live.

    Kevin Kelley vs Troy Dorsey
    Kevin Kelley vs Derrick Gainer 1
    Matthew Saad Muhammad vs Marvin Johnson 1
    Matthew Saad Muhammad vs Yaqui Lopez 2
    Bobby Chacon vs Rafael Limon 4
    Bobby Chacon vs Cornelius Boza Edwards 2
    Michael Moorer vs Bert Cooper
    Charles Williams vs Merqui Sosa 1 or 2
    Wilfredo Gomez vs Lupe Pintor
    Kelvin Seabrooks vs Thierry Jacob

    And i didn't even have to really think about that list either, there's plenty of better fights treat yourself to these classics.
    One of the reasons people think its better than any of those fights , is the magnitude of both participants , not many people out of boxing would know many off your list.
    But as ever its a matter of opinion.
    That's what ICB and other younger guys don't understand. You can't really appreciate how great something is when you didn't even exist when it happened. It's like being told the ending of a film before watching it.

    It would be the equivalent today of watching Pac-Floyd having a mental three round tear-up. Everyone would be totally shocked, which would make it totally unforgettable.
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    Default Re: 25 years on and still the greatest fight ever IMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post

    Well it is overrated due to the fact, people call it the greatest action fight of all time when that clearly isn't true. Yes it had one great round, but the others Marvin Hagler was in control of despite the cut.

    Mark i could give you 10 fights right now, that are better fights. And if you watched them over a course of a week, i guarantee you would enjoy them more. Because i don't think you've seen them so it would be like watching it live.

    Kevin Kelley vs Troy Dorsey
    Kevin Kelley vs Derrick Gainer 1
    Matthew Saad Muhammad vs Marvin Johnson 1
    Matthew Saad Muhammad vs Yaqui Lopez 2
    Bobby Chacon vs Rafael Limon 4
    Bobby Chacon vs Cornelius Boza Edwards 2
    Michael Moorer vs Bert Cooper
    Charles Williams vs Merqui Sosa 1 or 2
    Wilfredo Gomez vs Lupe Pintor
    Kelvin Seabrooks vs Thierry Jacob

    And i didn't even have to really think about that list either, there's plenty of better fights treat yourself to these classics.
    One of the reasons people think its better than any of those fights , is the magnitude of both participants , not many people out of boxing would know many off your list.
    But as ever its a matter of opinion.
    That's what ICB and other younger guys don't understand. You can't really appreciate how great something is when you didn't even exist when it happened. It's like being told the ending of a film before watching it.

    It would be the equivalent today of watching Pac-Floyd having a mental three round tear-up. Everyone would be totally shocked, which would make it totally unforgettable.
    This is bang on the money for anyone who cant understand my point.

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    Default Re: 25 years on and still the greatest fight ever IMO.

    Super classic, these guys were aggressive, they didnt care about nothing but finishing it

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    Default Re: 25 years on and still the greatest fight ever IMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO View Post

    have to disagree too

    overrated is one word I would not use for this fight.

    I've never seen anything like it - Gatti fights et al. Guess the fact that it was two boxing superstars at their peak adds a lot of clout - but then again thats what made it all the more enthralling (good word that).

    As Larry Merchant said of the fight , and still does now, 'Nobody breathed for eight minutes'. Am not Larry's biggest fan but I can certainly understand that
    Well it is overrated due to the fact, people call it the greatest action fight of all time when that clearly isn't true. Yes it had one great round, but the others Marvin Hagler was in control of despite the cut.

    Mark i could give you 10 fights right now, that are better fights. And if you watched them over a course of a week, i guarantee you would enjoy them more. Because i don't think you've seen them so it would be like watching it live.

    Kevin Kelley vs Troy Dorsey
    Kevin Kelley vs Derrick Gainer 1
    Matthew Saad Muhammad vs Marvin Johnson 1
    Matthew Saad Muhammad vs Yaqui Lopez 2
    Bobby Chacon vs Rafael Limon 4
    Bobby Chacon vs Cornelius Boza Edwards 2
    Michael Moorer vs Bert Cooper
    Charles Williams vs Merqui Sosa 1 or 2
    Wilfredo Gomez vs Lupe Pintor
    Kelvin Seabrooks vs Thierry Jacob

    And i didn't even have to really think about that list either, there's plenty of better fights treat yourself to these classics.
    One of the reasons people think its better than any of those fights , is the magnitude of both participants , not many people out of boxing would know many off your list.
    But as ever its a matter of opinion.
    I tend to agree. Hell, I don't know a bunch on there. I probably should look them up, though. So thanks. But yeah, you're looking at two guys at the height of their careers in a good era for boxing who generally disliked eachother with a combined record of (at the time) 101-3.
    That's pretty awesome. I wouldn't call it my favorite fight of all time but WOW was it entertaining.
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