is it actually possible for a heavyweight to ever be the p4p #1??

[Lance Uppercut]

Roy Jones was #1 pound for pound after he beat John Ruiz as a heavyweight. Also Holyfield and Lewis regularly appeared on The Ring pound for pound list in the 1990s.

[Majesty]

Roy Jones was #1 pound for pound after he beat John Ruiz as a heavyweight. Also Holyfield and Lewis regularly appeared on The Ring pound for pound list in the 1990s.

Holyfield and Lewis appeared as the p4p because there was only one champ.


Vitali and Wladimer refuse to fight each other so neither of them should be on the p4p list because they refuse to fight the best fighters at Heavyweight.. each other.

[BIG H]

Even Larry Holmes only reached number 3, so it aint easy!

[Howlin Mad Missy]

perceived competiton and dominance at your weight.

If you don't have the 'career defining fight(s)' people now think less of your achievements...hence why Calzaghe will always be crappy and no where near an ATG in my eyes.

[El Kabong]

I say no on account of the fact the Pound for Pound ranking was made to figure out who the best fighter in the world is who isn't the heavyweight champion of the world.

So UNLESS someone like Roy Jones Jr., Michael Spinks, or James Toney, Bob Foster, etc who are not natural heavyweights and they win at heavyweight then they can be P4P #1 but I don't rate true heavyweights in the P4P ratings no Ali no Tyson no nobody from heavyweight.

[BIG H]

I say no on account of the fact the Pound for Pound ranking was made to figure out who the best fighter in the world is who isn't the heavyweight champion of the world.

So UNLESS someone like Roy Jones Jr., Michael Spinks, or James Toney, Bob Foster, etc who are not natural heavyweights and they win at heavyweight then they can be P4P #1 but I don't rate true heavyweights in the P4P ratings no Ali no Tyson no nobody from heavyweight.

No it was made for the assumption of who would be best if weight was not a factor. That doesn't preclude heavyweights

[El Kabong]

No it was made for the assumption of who would be best if weight was not a factor. That doesn't preclude heavyweights

I don't count the heavyweights in the P4P, that's just the way I do it

[Fenster]

The whole idea of P4P is matching fighters with the size and weight leveled.

Wlad has a considerable size and weight advantage over almost everyone he fights. Which is clearly a huge factor in his success.

For a heavyweight to be P4P they would need to be an exceptional phenom like prime Tyson.

[HattonTheHammer]

I say no on account of the fact the Pound for Pound ranking was made to figure out who the best fighter in the world is who isn't the heavyweight champion of the world.

So UNLESS someone like Roy Jones Jr., Michael Spinks, or James Toney, Bob Foster, etc who are not natural heavyweights and they win at heavyweight then they can be P4P #1 but I don't rate true heavyweights in the P4P ratings no Ali no Tyson no nobody from heavyweight.

The same argument that a heavyweight cant be considered p4p#1 could be totally reversed and used for a minumweight having an advantage over every other division.

If the p4p isnt there to recognise the best fighter in the world regardless of weight then what exactly is it for??

[Fenster]

Minimumweights fight guys the same size as them.

[mattboxingfan]

P4P just seem's to be given to the person who can jump as many weigth classes as they can and get a title at them all! It should be the best figthers beating the best fighters to become P4P but thats a perfect boxing would and we all know that doesnt exist!

[Rantcatrat]

I say no on account of the fact the Pound for Pound ranking was made to figure out who the best fighter in the world is who isn't the heavyweight champion of the world.

So UNLESS someone like Roy Jones Jr., Michael Spinks, or James Toney, Bob Foster, etc who are not natural heavyweights and they win at heavyweight then they can be P4P #1 but I don't rate true heavyweights in the P4P ratings no Ali no Tyson no nobody from heavyweight.

Not sure I totally agree with that, but either way, a contemporary example would be if Adamek beat Arreola (I'd have him somewhere at the bottom of a top ten p4p or nearby at that point) and then beat a Klitschko. That would be effectively climbing the weight ladder from lhw to hw.

[DaxxKahn]

Ali had to be considered P4P #1 for a portion of his career no?...Did not follow ratings back then due to being 3 but just bguessing

[Dave Hughey]

I say no on account of the fact the Pound for Pound ranking was made to figure out who the best fighter in the world is who isn't the heavyweight champion of the world.

So UNLESS someone like Roy Jones Jr., Michael Spinks, or James Toney, Bob Foster, etc who are not natural heavyweights and they win at heavyweight then they can be P4P #1 but I don't rate true heavyweights in the P4P ratings no Ali no Tyson no nobody from heavyweight.

Sorry, Lyle. I have to rate Marciano as an ATG P4Pounder. Just plug his numbers into the formula.