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    Default Re: Nazim Richardson: We won't do what the other forty did...

    if theres one man primed for the job of out thinking roger mayweather its nazim

    Mosleys gotta adapt and adapt early, he also has got to dictate the pace of the fight and force floyd to do the unthinkable and actually try and instigate something
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    Default Re: Nazim Richardson: We won't do what the other forty did...

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    if theres one man primed for the job of out thinking roger mayweather its nazim

    Mosleys gotta adapt and adapt early, he also has got to dictate the pace of the fight and force floyd to do the unthinkable and actually try and instigate something
    Go back and watch the Judah fight. After seeing that judah was just as quick as Floyd and beating him with counters early, Roger's words to Floyd

    "Go after him he doesn't want to fight"

    If Shane can patiently circle until Floyd decides to come forward then we might see a super great fight...But I think they have a bit more respect for Shane than Judah, so I doubt Roger will say that to Floyd even if he were down on points.
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    Default Re: Nazim Richardson: We won't do what the other forty did...

    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    if theres one man primed for the job of out thinking roger mayweather its nazim

    Mosleys gotta adapt and adapt early, he also has got to dictate the pace of the fight and force floyd to do the unthinkable and actually try and instigate something
    Go back and watch the Judah fight. After seeing that judah was just as quick as Floyd and beating him with counters early, Roger's words to Floyd

    "Go after him he doesn't want to fight"

    If Shane can patiently circle until Floyd decides to come forward then we might see a super great fight...But I think they have a bit more respect for Shane than Judah, so I doubt Roger will say that to Floyd even if he were down on points.
    shane loves it on the back foot

    margarito got a beatdown everytime he tried to get inside because shane just worked out early on what was coming with every attack. ODLH was the second man out every time he tried to get things going because of shanes blistering hand speed.

    if floyd comes in and connects you can rest assured immidiately shane will be right back at him in a much more demanding fashion and floyd will question very early on whether thats the right path to go down
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    Default Re: Nazim Richardson: We won't do what the other forty did...

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    if theres one man primed for the job of out thinking roger mayweather its nazim

    Mosleys gotta adapt and adapt early, he also has got to dictate the pace of the fight and force floyd to do the unthinkable and actually try and instigate something
    Go back and watch the Judah fight. After seeing that judah was just as quick as Floyd and beating him with counters early, Roger's words to Floyd

    "Go after him he doesn't want to fight"

    If Shane can patiently circle until Floyd decides to come forward then we might see a super great fight...But I think they have a bit more respect for Shane than Judah, so I doubt Roger will say that to Floyd even if he were down on points.
    shane loves it on the back foot

    margarito got a beatdown everytime he tried to get inside because shane just worked out early on what was coming with every attack. ODLH was the second man out every time he tried to get things going because of shanes blistering hand speed.

    if floyd comes in and connects you can rest assured immidiately shane will be right back at him in a much more demanding fashion and floyd will question very early on whether thats the right path to go down
    Floyd can win this fight in only one fashion..long jabs and his bicycle. I seriously doubt we will see the shoulder rolling...
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    Default Re: Nazim Richardson: We won't do what the other forty did...

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    if theres one man primed for the job of out thinking roger mayweather its nazim

    Mosleys gotta adapt and adapt early, he also has got to dictate the pace of the fight and force floyd to do the unthinkable and actually try and instigate something
    Go back and watch the Judah fight. After seeing that judah was just as quick as Floyd and beating him with counters early, Roger's words to Floyd

    "Go after him he doesn't want to fight"

    If Shane can patiently circle until Floyd decides to come forward then we might see a super great fight...But I think they have a bit more respect for Shane than Judah, so I doubt Roger will say that to Floyd even if he were down on points.
    shane loves it on the back foot

    margarito got a beatdown everytime he tried to get inside because shane just worked out early on what was coming with every attack. ODLH was the second man out every time he tried to get things going because of shanes blistering hand speed.

    if floyd comes in and connects you can rest assured immidiately shane will be right back at him in a much more demanding fashion and floyd will question very early on whether thats the right path to go down
    I agree...Shane Mosley is a guy who never backs down and in truth doesn't need to because he can hold his own with anyone...

    For those who say Mosley has problems with defensive fighters they mistake the type of defense Wright has thinking it is all the same...Winky in his day made it almost impossible to get through the high defense....Floyd relies on the roll...

    Shane is the harder puncher...Shane like going toe top toe...Shane just can not let Floyd dictate the pace is all....Listen to Richardson who IMO other then Freddie Roach is the best trainer out there when it comes to making plans on how to beat a fighter....

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    Default Re: Nazim Richardson: We won't do what the other forty did...

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    if theres one man primed for the job of out thinking roger mayweather its nazim

    Mosleys gotta adapt and adapt early, he also has got to dictate the pace of the fight and force floyd to do the unthinkable and actually try and instigate something
    Go back and watch the Judah fight. After seeing that judah was just as quick as Floyd and beating him with counters early, Roger's words to Floyd

    "Go after him he doesn't want to fight"

    If Shane can patiently circle until Floyd decides to come forward then we might see a super great fight...But I think they have a bit more respect for Shane than Judah, so I doubt Roger will say that to Floyd even if he were down on points.
    shane loves it on the back foot

    margarito got a beatdown everytime he tried to get inside because shane just worked out early on what was coming with every attack. ODLH was the second man out every time he tried to get things going because of shanes blistering hand speed.

    if floyd comes in and connects you can rest assured immidiately shane will be right back at him in a much more demanding fashion and floyd will question very early on whether thats the right path to go down
    Well lets see that sounds like it would fit into Mayweathers plan wouldnt it? If he hits Shane that shane is gonna try to come back at him more aggressively, wouldn't that then mean that Mayweather would have trained for that and be sitting back waiting to counter Shane when he comes in after getting tagged?
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    Default Re: Nazim Richardson: We won't do what the other forty did...

    The only problem i have here is who too root for, i like both fighters equally for different reasons. I think i'll sit on the fence for this one.

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    Default Re: Nazim Richardson: We won't do what the other forty did...

    I love Shane...great fighter with a warrior spirit. But with all due honesty...the last time he looked SENSATIONAL was in the first Oscar fight (and there are questions in regards to PEDs back then). People might jump up and down and say "what about Margarito?!" While Mosley deserves credit for that win...with the the circumstances around that fight (the hand wraps) and the fact that Tony, while a tough fighter, is nowhere close to the caliber of a Mayweather jr....you can't read to much into that victory. People keep mentioning Shane's speed. Mosley is no doubt still fast...but he does not possess the natural fluidity and sharpness of Floyd...especially now that he is 38 years old. To beat Floyd, you must have a GREAT jab. Shane does not have a great jab. His jab looked better against Margarito...but lets not kid ourselves...Tony is an easy guy to hit. All this does not mean Shane has no chance...especially since Naseem Richardson has had a positive impact on his fighting. But I see Floyd adapting to whatever Shane brings...and by round 5...he will have figured Mosley out completely and win on a UD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin View Post
    I love Shane...great fighter with a warrior spirit. But with all due honesty...the last time he looked SENSATIONAL was in the first Oscar fight (and there are questions in regards to PEDs back then). People might jump up and down and say "what about Margarito?!" While Mosley deserves credit for that win...with the the circumstances around that fight (the hand wraps) and the fact that Tony, while a tough fighter, is nowhere close to the caliber of a Mayweather jr....you can't read to much into that victory. People keep mentioning Shane's speed. Mosley is no doubt still fast...but he does not possess the natural fluidity and sharpness of Floyd...especially now that he is 38 years old. To beat Floyd, you must have a GREAT jab. Shane does not have a great jab. His jab looked better against Margarito...but lets not kid ourselves...Tony is an easy guy to hit. All this does not mean Shane has no chance...especially since Naseem Richardson has had a positive impact on his fighting. But I see Floyd adapting to whatever Shane brings...and by round 5...he will have figured Mosley out completely and win on a UD.
    Mosely wasnt involved with balco back in 2000 during the first oscar fight. He wasn't introduced to Vic Vonte unitl the rematch..2003
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    The only problem i have here is who too root for, i like both fighters equally for different reasons. I think i'll sit on the fence for this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
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    The only problem i have here is who too root for, i like both fighters equally for different reasons. I think i'll sit on the fence for this one.
    Then go with the good guy
    Are you referring to the PED cheat?

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    Default Re: Nazim Richardson: We won't do what the other forty did...

    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    if theres one man primed for the job of out thinking roger mayweather its nazim

    Mosleys gotta adapt and adapt early, he also has got to dictate the pace of the fight and force floyd to do the unthinkable and actually try and instigate something
    Go back and watch the Judah fight. After seeing that judah was just as quick as Floyd and beating him with counters early, Roger's words to Floyd

    "Go after him he doesn't want to fight"


    If Shane can patiently circle until Floyd decides to come forward then we might see a super great fight...But I think they have a bit more respect for Shane than Judah, so I doubt Roger will say that to Floyd even if he were down on points.
    No but regardless of what Roger said in that fight... Floyd ALWAYS puts pressure (or at least, starts to fight off the front foot) on guys who are out boxing him (or at least dictating the range/ pace of the fight).

    From Reggie Sanders to Oscar Dela Hoya

    If Mosley can dictate anything in this fight, he'll be on to either winning, or making Floyd look extremely negative.
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    Default Re: Nazim Richardson: We won't do what the other forty did...

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    if theres one man primed for the job of out thinking roger mayweather its nazim

    Mosleys gotta adapt and adapt early, he also has got to dictate the pace of the fight and force floyd to do the unthinkable and actually try and instigate something

    Hell, almost every trainer outthinks Rodger Mayweather... Without Floyds god given skills he'd be smoking crack somewhere.

    But, yeah. Nazim is excellent. I will go as far ast to say he gives some of the best corner advice of any trainer in the sport today. I was very glad he has almost fully recovered from his stroke. The sport needs more like him and not the bunch of assholes who throw towels over their shoulders and call themselves trainers.

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    Default Re: Nazim Richardson: We won't do what the other forty did...

    I'm sorry i just don't see it, shane brings nothing new that floyd hasn't already seen or beaten. Not only that shane doesn't bring anything that others haven't already beaten. Nazim is a great trainer....but he doesn't fight. Rodger should get some credit as well, say what you will he trains the best boxer in the sport. No different than phil jackson sitting around and watching micheal jordan and kobe braynt play all these years. I've said it before one guy doesn't have to be shit just cause you don't like the other. If nazim was a miracle maker b hop would have done more than put most to sleep against a faded roy jones who lately can damn near be ko'ed during the ringwalk. Nazim knows, roach knew, nacho knew, grahamn knew blah blah blah. Shane is who he is, and older at that. Barring nazim finding something in floyds gloves he will fight the way he always does and always has...
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    Default Re: Nazim Richardson: We won't do what the other forty did...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mar View Post
    I'm sorry i just don't see it, shane brings nothing new that floyd hasn't already seen or beaten. Not only that shane doesn't bring anything that others haven't already beaten. Nazim is a great trainer....but he doesn't fight. Rodger should get some credit as well, say what you will he trains the best boxer in the sport. No different than phil jackson sitting around and watching micheal jordan and kobe braynt play all these years. I've said it before one guy doesn't have to be shit just cause you don't like the other. If nazim was a miracle maker b hop would have done more than put most to sleep against a faded roy jones who lately can damn near be ko'ed during the ringwalk. Nazim knows, roach knew, nacho knew, grahamn knew blah blah blah. Shane is who he is, and older at that. Barring nazim finding something in floyds gloves he will fight the way he always does and always has...

    Bhop is forty five,and never showed the athletic skill of shane or RJJ for that matter. The fact that he did train bhop to level of success was a miracle. The last crap against roy was due to the fact that he was 45.

    Besides All roger did was INHERIT floyd from floyd senior. I'm pretty sure with floyd's knowledge he could fight two fights without Roger in the corner. Shane on the other hand fights better with a better trainer. His father was one of the worst corner men I've ever witnessed and its a miracle that shane was so successful with that useless guy in his corner. The same thing you say about Shane, you can say of floyd.

    Floyd Doesn't bring anything that shane hasn't already seen. And trainer or not Floyd will fight the same way he always has. He can become a victim of his own success.
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