Nazim Richardson: We won't do what the other forty did...

[eagle]

I'm sorry i just don't see it, shane brings nothing new that floyd hasn't already seen or beaten. Not only that shane doesn't bring anything that others haven't already beaten. Nazim is a great trainer....but he doesn't fight. Rodger should get some credit as well, say what you will he trains the best boxer in the sport. No different than phil jackson sitting around and watching micheal jordan and kobe braynt play all these years. I've said it before one guy doesn't have to be shit just cause you don't like the other. If nazim was a miracle maker b hop would have done more than put most to sleep against a faded roy jones who lately can damn near be ko'ed during the ringwalk. Nazim knows, roach knew, nacho knew, grahamn knew blah blah blah. Shane is who he is, and older at that. Barring nazim finding something in floyds gloves he will fight the way he always does and always has...

Bhop is forty five,and never showed the athletic skill of shane or RJJ for that matter. The fact that he did train bhop to level of success was a miracle. The last crap against roy was due to the fact that he was 45.

Besides All roger did was INHERIT floyd from floyd senior. I'm pretty sure with floyd's knowledge he could fight two fights without Roger in the corner. Shane on the other hand fights better with a better trainer. His father was one of the worst corner men I've ever witnessed and its a miracle that shane was so successful with that useless guy in his corner. The same thing you say about Shane, you can say of floyd.

Floyd Doesn't bring anything that shane hasn't already seen. And trainer or not Floyd will fight the same way he always has. He can become a victim of his own success.

Who has Shane fought that fights like Mayweather? It amazes me how you make it sound so easy to beat a 40-0 5 division champ. Maybe you dhould be a world class trainer as it seems you gave it all figured out.

[Kel]

I honestly think Shane has a good chance but Floyd is much faster on his feet. I have no doubt Floyd will have his back to the ropes at times but Shane wont be there to land when he is.

[JonesJrMayweather]

I'm sorry i just don't see it, shane brings nothing new that floyd hasn't already seen or beaten. Not only that shane doesn't bring anything that others haven't already beaten. Nazim is a great trainer....but he doesn't fight. Rodger should get some credit as well, say what you will he trains the best boxer in the sport. No different than phil jackson sitting around and watching micheal jordan and kobe braynt play all these years. I've said it before one guy doesn't have to be shit just cause you don't like the other. If nazim was a miracle maker b hop would have done more than put most to sleep against a faded roy jones who lately can damn near be ko'ed during the ringwalk. Nazim knows, roach knew, nacho knew, grahamn knew blah blah blah. Shane is who he is, and older at that. Barring nazim finding something in floyds gloves he will fight the way he always does and always has...

Bhop is forty five,and never showed the athletic skill of shane or RJJ for that matter. The fact that he did train bhop to level of success was a miracle. The last crap against roy was due to the fact that he was 45.

Besides All roger did was INHERIT floyd from floyd senior. I'm pretty sure with floyd's knowledge he could fight two fights without Roger in the corner. Shane on the other hand fights better with a better trainer. His father was one of the worst corner men I've ever witnessed and its a miracle that shane was so successful with that useless guy in his corner. The same thing you say about Shane, you can say of floyd.

Floyd Doesn't bring anything that shane hasn't already seen. And trainer or not Floyd will fight the same way he always has. He can become a victim of his own success.

Who has Shane fought that fights like Mayweather? It amazes me how you make it sound so easy to beat a 40-0 5 division champ. Maybe you dhould be a world class trainer as it seems you gave it all figured out.

I was making a point about how the same things can be said about both..Who has PBF fought that fights like shane?

[Gandalf]

Mosley needs to start strong in this one. He started way too slowly against Cotto and Mayorga and it was only when Cotto started to gas that Mosley really began to impose himself in that one. I think the first 4 rounds are crucial. Mosley can get disheartened if things are not going his way, so he really needs a good start here. Floyd is a slow starter himself so I don't think it is an unreasonble expectation and it will lead to a very interesting fight as the rounds build up.

Mosley really needs to use his reach advantage in this one and use the jab better than he has in the past. There is no point just rushing in with the hooks because we know Floyd will be able to pick them off or avoid them. Mosley was able to use the jab quite well against Margarito, but Margarito is a whole different ball game. Later on Mosley can take more risks with the wild hooks as Floyd will hopefully need to open up more himself by then, but I really think he needs to be careful early on and just make sure that he banks some rounds because it is most likely going to the cards. A good effective jab and combinations off of that is the way to do it. It's not too hard to be busier than Floyd so he really needs to hustle those early rounds and make it his fight.

[Dizaster]

Mosley needs to start strong in this one. He started way too slowly against Cotto and Mayorga and it was only when Cotto started to gas that Mosley really began to impose himself in that one. I think the first 4 rounds are crucial. Mosley can get disheartened if things are not going his way, so he really needs a good start here. Floyd is a slow starter himself so I don't think it is an unreasonble expectation and it will lead to a very interesting fight as the rounds build up.

Mosley really needs to use his reach advantage in this one and use the jab better than he has in the past. There is no point just rushing in with the hooks because we know Floyd will be able to pick them off or avoid them. Mosley was able to use the jab quite well against Margarito, but Margarito is a whole different ball game. Later on Mosley can take more risks with the wild hooks as Floyd will hopefully need to open up more himself by then, but I really think he needs to be careful early on and just make sure that he banks some rounds because it is most likely going to the cards. A good effective jab and combinations off of that is the way to do it. It's not too hard to be busier than Floyd so he really needs to hustle those early rounds and make it his fight.

Yeah think that is it right there... At least as far as a good plan to start with against Mayweather... If he just gives up the first 4 rounds while he warms up, then he's backing himself into a corner and Mayweather has a lot more freedom later.... Mayweather always looks better when he's not openly engaging, and clearly wins rounds even being much less active than his opponent..

If Mosley can at least take 4 of the first 6 rounds, the pressure goes back on Mayweather.. Scorecard pressure anyway... Something Mayweather doesn't deal with in his fights... It's hard to look good enough in enough area's against Mayweather to take rounds.. But if he can at least land as often, have a decent connect percentage, and be generally more aggressive, and land at least 3 or 4 thudding shots per round to get the points, then the second half of the fight could be very interesting...

I just think if Mayweather has 4 or 5 rounds of the first 6, it's going to go really downhill from there for Mosley..