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idk if the result had as much to do as the cuts not getting cleaned up and/maybe Pavlik quiting as Martinez Speed

when pavlik wasnt cut and was really into the fight (rounds 4-7) it looked like he was going to win by round 10
Yeah but it is not like Martinez just got lucky and caused one cut, pavlik had three cuts, two on right eye and one on left, as manny said during the fight speed causes cuts.......



not if you watch any of Pavliks fights before i dont think ive ever seen a fight where he didnt get cut on even the weakest punch he just has thin skin inhis face or something but it doesnt make much effort or speed to cut him

hurting him is a whole nother issue which he doest get hurt often
I dont remember pavlik being a bleeder.