Pavlik - Martinez/Bute - Miranda fight talk

[Hulk]

I thought it was a bit of an early stoppage in the Miranda vs. Bute fight.

Reminded me of Oliver McCall vs. Lennox Lewis I.

[TigerFan]

Congrats to the new champ!

I may be in the minority(which is fine) but I thought in the rounds prior to the cut Pavlik was starting to figure him out. He was starting to make Sergio miss wildly and frequently out jabbing him. I thought Pavlik was on his way to eeking out a close points win...maybe a disputed decision to some. Once he got cut, he just broke down like Juan Diaz.

Speaking of Diaz's. Where the hell was Pavlik's cutman Miguel Diaz?


What the hell was Miranda thinking Before the knockout, I thought he looked helluva lot better technically than he has in the past. In retrospect his handlers should have probably waited for another shot at Stieglitz.

[Gandalf]

Congrats to the new champ!

I may be in the minority(which is fine) but I thought in the rounds prior to the cut Pavlik was starting to figure him out. He was starting to make Sergio miss wildly and frequently out jabbing him. I thought Pavlik was on his way to eeking out a close points win...maybe a disputed decision to some. Once he got cut, he just broke down like Juan Diaz.

Speaking of Diaz's. Where the hell was Pavlik's cutman Miguel Diaz?


What the hell was Miranda thinking Before the knockout, I thought he looked helluva lot better technically than he has in the past. In retrospect his handlers should have probably waited for another shot at Stieglitz.

No, I thought exactly the same. Pavlik started to get closer in the 4th and then in the 5th you sensed a change in the ebb of the fight. The cut was a bad one and blood was oozing out. There must have been issues with visibility. To an extent Martinez made adjustments, but that cut occured at almost the same time. Which was it? Did Martinez find a second wind or did Pavlik wilt because of the bleeding? Probably a bit of both. There is no doubt that Pavlik looked like a fish out of water down the stretch and Martinez was coming on. I think Pavlik deserves another shot at Martinez and it is in the contract, but he really needs to show more than what he did. In the face of adversity Pavlik was far too meek. Martinez fought out of his skin today and good on him for getting the win, but there are question marks. Cuts affect different fighters in different ways, look what Pac did to Morales in the rematch. I'm not saying Pavlik is Manny Pac, but he was well in the fight going into the 9th and arguably up on the cards with the KD.

[mickel]

great win for bute. all of sudden he is packing some power. along with his boxing skills this guy is very dangerous. right now I would take him against any of the super six.

martinez was nothing short of spectacular. he is a top 5 p4p. he fights the best fighters and is simply amazing! I thought pavlik had turned it around and was on his way to a tko or ko, but that left in the 9th obviously changed everything. I'm sure kelly will be back. I mean without the cut over the right eye he most likely wins..can't wait for II

[DaxxKahn]

great win for bute. all of sudden he is packing some power. along with his boxing skills this guy is very dangerous. right now I would take him against any of the super six.

martinez was nothing short of spectacular. he is a top 5 p4p. he fights the best fighters and is simply amazing! I thought pavlik had turned it around and was on his way to a tko or ko, but that left in the 9th obviously changed everything. I'm sure kelly will be back. I mean without the cut over the right eye he most likely wins..can't wait for II

Martinez is not top 5 P4P.....

Bute has 21 KO's out of 26 fights...The power is not a new novelty......

Martinez fights too reckless...The kid has shit on his resume but Cintron and Williams....He has little power and very poor defense....

Martinez fights another fighter with similar speed he is a memory..

Foreman at 154 beats him to a UD IMO....Cotto beats him up and takes his Body away....(Pacquiao's speed bothered Cotto...Martinez is no Pacquiao in speed terms)...

Pacquiao, Mayweather, JMM, Dawson, Mosley, Bradley, Bute, Ward, Alexander, Darchinyan......to name a few...

Who is this kid better then P4P?.....I pick Manny and Shane to both beat him up at 154.....If Ward made 160 for 1 fight this guy would be on his back before the 3rd......

This guy is not top 5 P4P...

[DaxxKahn]

I thought it was a bit of an early stoppage in the Miranda vs. Bute fight.

Reminded me of Oliver McCall vs. Lennox Lewis I.

Nothing early about that one....If you looked at Mirandas face when he stood up you could see he was done....Bute would have came in and put the exclamation on it is all...Bute is good when he has his man in trouble...

[Eloking]

I thought it was a bit of an early stoppage in the Miranda vs. Bute fight.

Reminded me of Oliver McCall vs. Lennox Lewis I.

If the guy doesn't object the decision, then it's a good call.

[HattonTheHammer]

FINALLY sergio gets a decision in the states

Even though he battered pavlik i seriously pondered whether martinez would actually get the decision

Pavlik is the most fabricated world champ of all time. Ive said from day one a top quality fighter will always get the better of kelly and i was right all along.

martinez is the bees knees, seriously hoping to see him in with williams again down the line

[DaxxKahn]

FINALLY sergio gets a decision in the states

Even though he battered pavlik i seriously pondered whether martinez would actually get the decision

Pavlik is the most fabricated world champ of all time. Ive said from day one a top quality fighter will always get the better of kelly and i was right all along.

martinez is the bees knees, seriously hoping to see him in with williams again down the line

Bees..Knees...

Someone has been watching too many Geico commercials