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Re: If this Valero situation was caused by CTE, does boxing need to do more?(long, so
You just need a good head trauma to see your personality seriously bust your personality, the accident could solely be the cause of it and perhaps boxing did made it worst but just with that accident it could scientifically be explainable.Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Re: If this Valero situation was caused by CTE, does boxing need to do more?(long, so
You just need a good head trauma to see your personality seriously bust your personality, the accident could solely be the cause of it and perhaps boxing did made it worst but just with that accident it could scientifically be explainable.
I understand that... what I was trying to say I guess is not sure what he was like before rhe accident after and how much did things seem to change while boxing...
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Its a great point you have there.
Strange isnt it though how many head trauma cases work the reverse and they are peaceful loving people and some go the opposite way into rage.
Same with drug use, same with most traumas I suppose.
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Re: If this Valero situation was caused by CTE, does boxing need to do more?(long, so
Glad to see there is some real discussion taking place on this board. What you are all saying is valid especially considering three main points:
1. What was the degree of his head injury--that kept him from fighting in the US for so long?
2. What were the effects of the severe headbutt/gash he took in his last fight (please see this horrendous cut)?
3. Did that play into the effects of the alcohol (and/or drugs) he may have been using?
The problem is this... we would never get a straight answer in the US or the UK, so don't look for on from Chaveland.
(which leads to the other thread... also see "Valero's not Dead")
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Re: If this Valero situation was caused by CTE, does boxing need to do more?(long, so
You just need a good head trauma to see your personality seriously bust your personality, the accident could solely be the cause of it and perhaps boxing did made it worst but just with that accident it could scientifically be explainable.
Pardon me... it was an elbow, not a headbutt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aScE-y__Cbc
How significant was this injury, considering he fought on?
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Re: If this Valero situation was caused by CTE, does boxing need to do more?(long, so
It is difficult to say because many consequences are shown up quite late after the injury, it really depends. Personally, I don't think that this injury did trigger the whole, I think more that it's the accident he had in 2002 and where they had to put a metal plate in his head or something like that that could have been the major cause of his behaviors, the shot to the heads sustained subsequently not helping the cause, obviously.You just need a good head trauma to see your personality seriously bust your personality, the accident could solely be the cause of it and perhaps boxing did made it worst but just with that accident it could scientifically be explainable.
Pardon me... it was an elbow, not a headbutt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aScE-y__Cbc
How significant was this injury, considering he fought on?
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Re: If this Valero situation was caused by CTE, does boxing need to do more?(long, so
It is difficult to say because many consequences are shown up quite late after the injury, it really depends. Personally, I don't think that this injury did trigger the whole, I think more that it's the accident he had in 2002 and where they had to put a metal plate in his head or something like that that could have been the major cause of his behaviors, the shot to the heads sustained subsequently not helping the cause, obviously.
Pardon me... it was an elbow, not a headbutt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aScE-y__CbcHow significant was this injury, considering he fought on?
Well, clearly things went from bad to worse not long after this fight. It makes you wonder... they stole Joe Mesi's career from him sighting that they were doing it 'for the fighter's safety.' So which way does the cradle rock for whom?
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Before that, there was already some alarming signs: it was reported that already in 2007 he had violent tendencies, due to the accident or not? Hard to say but I've found that on Yahoo news and to me, it could easily be an indicator or a significant turning point:It is difficult to say because many consequences are shown up quite late after the injury, it really depends. Personally, I don't think that this injury did trigger the whole, I think more that it's the accident he had in 2002 and where they had to put a metal plate in his head or something like that that could have been the major cause of his behaviors, the shot to the heads sustained subsequently not helping the cause, obviously.
Well, clearly things went from bad to worse not long after this fight. It makes you wonder... they stole Joe Mesi's career from him sighting that they were doing it 'for the fighter's safety.' So which way does the cradle rock for whom?
On February 5, 2001, Valero was involved in a severe motorcycle accident in which he wasn't wearing a helmet. He fractured his skull and had surgery to remove a blood clot. This injury was sustained prior to him launching his pro career, and it created roadblocks to major bodies sanctioning his fights. Valero claimed that his Venezuelan doctor cleared him to fight on January 17, 2002, and he turned pro that July with a first-round KO.
Valero appeared to hit the jackpot when he was signed after his 12th pro fight by Golden Boy Promotions. Valero was scheduled to appear on HBO's Boxing After Dark, but in January 2004, he failed an MRI due to brain scan irregularities in New York and thus was not allowed to fight in the United States. As a result, the fight did not take place. He continued to fight outside the US and in March 25, 2008, Valero was cleared to box in the state of Texas."
Boxer Valero kills himself in jail, police say - Yahoo! News
The Article also says that Valero was suffering from depression, alcohol and cocaine dependency, which is a damn explosive cocktail, especially if your brain doesn't respond as it should.
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