HBO Analysts are finally ALL starting to piss me off...

[JonnyFolds]

If ONLY we could hear what I heard Saturday night at the fight... just the crowd and teh crack of good shots landing all night. At this point in my life, I do not have to be told why Pavlik is getting out-boxed, why he should have chosen another opponent, or why Martinez style is the way it is. I want to see the action. Maybe I should have been born 50 years ago before they had a "herd" commentators fighting over the chance to give their two cents.

In closing I have a few words I'd like to share. In the words of Jim Lampley:

"BANG BANG BANG BANG!!! You don't wanna fight? BANG BANG BANG. And another BANG BANG"

[Kev]

I don't really get why people get worked up by commentators.

It's not their job to make you agree with everything they are just to provide commentary and a feeling that aren't watching it alone.

I enjoy it when I disagree with them, it makes it more fun and involving.

I don't see the problem in them questioning Martinez as an opponent either. It's Pavlik's management team job to put guys in front of him who he can look good against and win, they clearly got that wrong so it's a legitimate call.

Plus if they sound a bit biased towards Pavlik so what, he's the American fighter, Martinez is an Argentine.

HBO is by the FAR the least patriotically biased network in the world, every other network around the world is openly and unashamedly partisan.

HBO (and to an extent other American networks) are far more balanced than any other networks in the world.

If Pavlik were British our British telecastors would be openly rooting for him, as they would in Canada, as they will for Kessler in Denmark.

And as for hating on Larry Merchant, he's damn near 80 years old, he's supposed to be a doddery old whiny coot! He's like the loveable grandad sitting in his chair swigging brandies and telling everyone who listens how it was better in his day. He's an institution! HBO are the premier commentating team in the world imo. Their flaws are what make them human, I don't want to listen to a bunch of automatons, designed to say only the right thing. I want to listen to real people, with silly opinions and strong feelings towards certain fighters.

[djcione]

There's no more Don Dunphy's anymore-wish there were

[The Fightfan]

If ONLY we could hear what I heard Saturday night at the fight... just the crowd and teh crack of good shots landing all night. At this point in my life, I do not have to be told why Pavlik is getting out-boxed, why he should have chosen another opponent, or why Martinez style is the way it is. I want to see the action. Maybe I should have been born 50 years ago before they had a "herd" commentators fighting over the chance to give their two cents.

In closing I have a few words I'd like to share. In the words of Jim Lampley:

"BANG BANG BANG BANG!!! You don't wanna fight? BANG BANG BANG. And another BANG BANG"

Yes I was there too and didn't need any commentating. Martinez was booed when annouced and cheered when he won and stole the crowd from Pavlik. When I came home to listen to the HBO announcers I agreed with what they were saying. Martinez earlier in the fight I did think was running and by time he cut Pavlik in the ninth he really started to trade with Kelly. So I could see where Merchant was coming from.

As for the whole HBO crew pissing me off I still like three of them. Like I said in another post get rid of Lampley,Kellerman and Lennox,Bring Bob Papa into Lampley's spot,and rotate Tarver and Steward with Merchant and once again you have an all star cast.

[Majesty]

The only thing that annoys me aside from Larry Merchant...

is how Emanuel Stewart acts like he is predicting everything so that he isn't wrong.

Like round 1 or 2 when fighter A is winning

Emanuel Stewart: I knew this would happen i said before the fight this is the worst fight for him and it won't look good.

Middle rounds Fighter B starting to come on

Emanuel Stewart: This is how I saw the fight going and predicted it would happen, this is what i knew would happen.

End rounds Fighter A coming back strong

Emanuel Stewart: See this is what I said was gonna happen, Fighter B can't deal with it.



He is like the freaking Emperor from Star Wars, no matter the situation everything is happening the way he has forseen.

[Kev]

The only thing that annoys me aside from Larry Merchant...

is how Emanuel Stewart acts like he is predicting everything so that he isn't wrong.

Like round 1 or 2 when fighter A is winning

Emanuel Stewart: I knew this would happen i said before the fight this is the worst fight for him and it won't look good.

Middle rounds Fighter B starting to come on

Emanuel Stewart: This is how I saw the fight going and predicted it would happen, this is what i knew would happen.

End rounds Fighter A coming back strong

Emanuel Stewart: See this is what I said was gonna happen, Fighter B can't deal with it.



He is like the freaking Emperor from Star Wars, no matter the situation everything is happening the way he has forseen.

Just be grateful Taeth isn't commentating