Danny Williams vs Frank Bruno

[DaxxKahn]

bruno was beating lewis - who alot of people think was a top 10 all time heavy

thing with frank is, tbh probabyl with the exception of MASSIVE punchers, not to say lewis wasnt he could hold his own with almost anyone, until he got hit! so could be bruno in 2 or 3 or williams in 5 or 6 lol

but probs bruno

The version of Lewis that fought Bruno is not the version of Lewis that made him great..

Just to be fair to Lennox...

To answer the question though IMO Bruno would win after some rough moments...

[Kev]

bruno was beating lewis - who alot of people think was a top 10 all time heavy

thing with frank is, tbh probabyl with the exception of MASSIVE punchers, not to say lewis wasnt he could hold his own with almost anyone, until he got hit! so could be bruno in 2 or 3 or williams in 5 or 6 lol

but probs bruno

The version of Lewis that fought Bruno is not the version of Lewis that made him great..

Just to be fair to Lennox...

To answer the question though IMO Bruno would win after some rough moments...

I don't know Lewis would have been about 28/29 then and was probably in his absolute prime.

After that he started to get a bit lax resulting in his two KO losses.

Lewis in 93/94 was probably a peak Lewis. The big name fighters he beat after that were all pretty much past their best.

[NUCLEAR BULL]

as much as i like danny, nice guy always has time to stop and chat...............but frank bruno's OUR FRANK, he'd beat williams inside 5 rounds

[Snakey]

Easy Bruno lost to Tyson and Williams beat Tyson so Williams of course

[Kev]

I know Snakey is talking in jest but I find it amazing that some of the others would think Danny Williams would beat Frank.

I mean Frank Bruno only lost to 3 fighters, all of whom would probably rule the division if around in their primes right now. He was also virtually impossible to beat on points. Only Tyson was ever ahead on the scorecards early against him.

Witherspoon had to wear him down in the late rounds and Lewis was behind at the point of the stoppage.

No fighter short of elite ever beat him.

Meanwhile Danny Williams got knocked out by Samil Sam, Albert Sosnowski and Audley Harrison. He lost to Julius Francis for feck's sake

I can't see him giving Frank Bruno any problems whatsoever, Bruno would have beaten him easily.

Bruno vs Gary Mason is a much more interesting fight imo.


I think Bruno and Mason are easily our best heavies of the last 20 years, discounting the great Canadian/American/Jamacian/Brit Lennox Lewis of course.

[ICB]

I know Snakey is talking in jest but I find it amazing that some of the others would think Danny Williams would beat Frank.

I mean Frank Bruno only lost to 3 fighters, all of whom would probably rule the division if around in their primes right now. He was also virtually impossible to beat on points. Only Tyson was ever ahead on the scorecards early against him.

Witherspoon had to wear him down in the late rounds and Lewis was behind at the point of the stoppage.

No fighter short of elite ever beat him.

Meanwhile Danny Williams got knocked out by Samil Sam, Albert Sosnowski and Audley Harrison. He lost to Julius Francis for feck's sake

I can't see him giving Frank Bruno any problems whatsoever, Bruno would have beaten him easily.

Bruno vs Gary Mason is a much more interesting fight imo.


I think Bruno and Mason are easily our best heavies of the last 20 years, discounting the great Canadian/American/Jamacian/Brit Lennox Lewis of course.

Gary Mason vs Frank Bruno would of been great, two huge punchers going at it. Gary Mason did hold some good wins over Tyrell Biggs, James Tillis. Shame that his career ended before it even really got started.

I think he gave Lennox Lewis a very rough/tough fight, but his eye was a mess and it had to be stopped.

But back on topic i couldn't agree with you more, could you imagine Danny Williams fighting Lennox Lewis, Tim Witherspoon, Bonecrusher Smith, Prime Mike Tyson ?

Honestly he would of been lucky, to have seen the 2nd round with most of em.

[DaxxKahn]

bruno was beating lewis - who alot of people think was a top 10 all time heavy

thing with frank is, tbh probabyl with the exception of MASSIVE punchers, not to say lewis wasnt he could hold his own with almost anyone, until he got hit! so could be bruno in 2 or 3 or williams in 5 or 6 lol

but probs bruno

The version of Lewis that fought Bruno is not the version of Lewis that made him great..

Just to be fair to Lennox...

To answer the question though IMO Bruno would win after some rough moments...

I don't know Lewis would have been about 28/29 then and was probably in his absolute prime.

After that he started to get a bit lax resulting in his two KO losses.

Lewis in 93/94 was probably a peak Lewis. The big name fighters he beat after that were all pretty much past their best.

You are going to try and seriously say the version of Lewis that fought Bruno was the best version of him?

You speak of nothing you know about....

Golota had just been named the terror of HW boxing with his 2 beatdowns of Bowe...Bowe was going to lose if not for the DQ..

Tua had only lost to Ibeabuchi

Grant undefeated and being proclaimed the future of HW boxing

Botha had only lost to Tyson (Who he was beating tiol he got caught) and

Moorer (who was only beaten once at the time buy upset over Foreman)

Mercer was dangerous had never been down at this point

Akinwande was undefeated

Morrison was on a 9 fight win streak

Briggs was well Briggs never mind...

Holyfield had lost only to Moorer and Bowe..

Sorry the 93/94 being the best Lewis does not fly

[Kev]

The version of Lewis that fought Bruno is not the version of Lewis that made him great..

Just to be fair to Lennox...

To answer the question though IMO Bruno would win after some rough moments...

I don't know Lewis would have been about 28/29 then and was probably in his absolute prime.

After that he started to get a bit lax resulting in his two KO losses.

Lewis in 93/94 was probably a peak Lewis. The big name fighters he beat after that were all pretty much past their best.

You are going to try and seriously say the version of Lewis that fought Bruno was the best version of him?

You speak of nothing you know about....

Golota had just been named the terror of HW boxing with his 2 beatdowns of Bowe...Bowe was going to lose if not for the DQ..

Tua had only lost to Ibeabuchi

Grant undefeated and being proclaimed the future of HW boxing

Botha had only lost to Tyson (Who he was beating tiol he got caught) and

Moorer (who was only beaten once at the time buy upset over Foreman)

Mercer was dangerous had never been down at this point

Akinwande was undefeated

Morrison was on a 9 fight win streak

Briggs was well Briggs never mind...

Holyfield had lost only to Moorer and Bowe..

Sorry the 93/94 being the best Lewis does not fly

I think you're overating all of those guys to be honest Daxx.

You only have to look at Lewis from that time and compare him to the Lewis of a few years later to see he was at least in his physical prime.
Yes he had some of his biggest wins later in his career but you can't convince me that he wasn't in his physical prime from around 28/30 years old

Bruno fought a Lennox Lewis in his physical prime. Go and rewatch the fights, just look at his body back then, he was a lean physical speciman.

[Master]

Bruno was far better and his management team really put him in with poor fighters after his defeat to Witherspoon. Bruno would have beaten Danny and Mason but think he would have lost to Horice Notice.

[DaxxKahn]

I don't know Lewis would have been about 28/29 then and was probably in his absolute prime.

After that he started to get a bit lax resulting in his two KO losses.

Lewis in 93/94 was probably a peak Lewis. The big name fighters he beat after that were all pretty much past their best.

You are going to try and seriously say the version of Lewis that fought Bruno was the best version of him?

You speak of nothing you know about....

Golota had just been named the terror of HW boxing with his 2 beatdowns of Bowe...Bowe was going to lose if not for the DQ..

Tua had only lost to Ibeabuchi

Grant undefeated and being proclaimed the future of HW boxing

Botha had only lost to Tyson (Who he was beating tiol he got caught) and

Moorer (who was only beaten once at the time buy upset over Foreman)

Mercer was dangerous had never been down at this point

Akinwande was undefeated

Morrison was on a 9 fight win streak

Briggs was well Briggs never mind...

Holyfield had lost only to Moorer and Bowe..

Sorry the 93/94 being the best Lewis does not fly

I think you're overating all of those guys to be honest Daxx.

You only have to look at Lewis from that time and compare him to the Lewis of a few years later to see he was at least in his physical prime.
Yes he had some of his biggest wins later in his career but you can't convince me that he wasn't in his physical prime from around 28/30 years old

Bruno fought a Lennox Lewis in his physical prime. Go and rewatch the fights, just look at his body back then, he was a lean physical speciman.

How can they be his biggest wins but the fighters be overrated?

How tight a physique is does not determine skill set...(If that is the case Arreola has yet to hit puberty)

I have every fight of Lewis on DVD he is my All time favorite HW and second all time favorite fighter....This is the reason why I feel comfortable with my argument....

Lennox may have been more fit in terms of appearence but look at his older fights the Bruno one in particular since this is the one we are debating on...

Notice Lewis was not as controlled, he did not have the composure that made him so good later on...Lewis swung to much for the fences...Look at how many shots he misses in the finish of Bruno alone....

Lennox Lewis of 2000 did not go in swinging wildly he took his time and took his opp apart...He fought tall used his reach and jab like no one else in the division.....

The HW division of the 1990's is considered by many to be the second strongest era of HW boxing outside of the 1970's...

These guys may have fizzled out in the long run but many of them up until Lewis were either on top of their game or considered to be the nest big thing....

The lesser guys of then would beat just about anyone but the Grimm Brothers today....

The 1990's versions of Morrison, Mercer, Tua, Holyfield and Moorer certainly are steps above Chambers, Arreola, Povetkin, Chagaev etc.....

Haye would not be the WBA champion that is for sure

[Kev]

You are going to try and seriously say the version of Lewis that fought Bruno was the best version of him?

You speak of nothing you know about....

Golota had just been named the terror of HW boxing with his 2 beatdowns of Bowe...Bowe was going to lose if not for the DQ..

Tua had only lost to Ibeabuchi

Grant undefeated and being proclaimed the future of HW boxing

Botha had only lost to Tyson (Who he was beating tiol he got caught) and

Moorer (who was only beaten once at the time buy upset over Foreman)

Mercer was dangerous had never been down at this point

Akinwande was undefeated

Morrison was on a 9 fight win streak

Briggs was well Briggs never mind...

Holyfield had lost only to Moorer and Bowe..

Sorry the 93/94 being the best Lewis does not fly

I think you're overating all of those guys to be honest Daxx.

You only have to look at Lewis from that time and compare him to the Lewis of a few years later to see he was at least in his physical prime.
Yes he had some of his biggest wins later in his career but you can't convince me that he wasn't in his physical prime from around 28/30 years old

Bruno fought a Lennox Lewis in his physical prime. Go and rewatch the fights, just look at his body back then, he was a lean physical speciman.

How can they be his biggest wins but the fighters be overrated?

How tight a physique is does not determine skill set...(If that is the case Arreola has yet to hit puberty)

I have every fight of Lewis on DVD he is my All time favorite HW and second all time favorite fighter....This is the reason why I feel comfortable with my argument....

Lennox may have been more fit in terms of appearence but look at his older fights the Bruno one in particular since this is the one we are debating on...

Notice Lewis was not as controlled, he did not have the composure that made him so good later on...Lewis swung to much for the fences...Look at how many shots he misses in the finish of Bruno alone....

Lennox Lewis of 2000 did not go in swinging wildly he took his time and took his opp apart...He fought tall used his reach and jab like no one else in the division.....

The HW division of the 1990's is considered by many to be the second strongest era of HW boxing outside of the 1970's...

These guys may have fizzled out in the long run but many of them up until Lewis were either on top of their game or considered to be the nest big thing....

The lesser guys of then would beat just about anyone but the Grimm Brothers today....

The 1990's versions of Morrison, Mercer, Tua, Holyfield and Moorer certainly are steps above Chambers, Arreola, Povetkin, Chagaev etc.....

Haye would not be the WBA champion that is for sure

It's interesting though that of all the names you mentioned only Mercer and Akinwande were much over 30 when they fought Lewis, and in both cases that marked the end of their effective careers, neither won world titles after that.

Most of them were in their late twenties when they were in their primes (according to you) and fought Lennox.

Lennox was a great fighter, he'd have won those fights at 28/29 as well as at 33/34.

Very much like Calzaghe he got his biggest fights late on in his career, but that doesn't mean he wasn't as good if not better earlier on.

Bruno went in with an extrememly dangerous Lennox Lewis who was 29 years old. He wasn't green or inexperienced, he was a world class fighter then too.

[DaxxKahn]

I think you're overating all of those guys to be honest Daxx.

You only have to look at Lewis from that time and compare him to the Lewis of a few years later to see he was at least in his physical prime.
Yes he had some of his biggest wins later in his career but you can't convince me that he wasn't in his physical prime from around 28/30 years old

Bruno fought a Lennox Lewis in his physical prime. Go and rewatch the fights, just look at his body back then, he was a lean physical speciman.

How can they be his biggest wins but the fighters be overrated?

How tight a physique is does not determine skill set...(If that is the case Arreola has yet to hit puberty)

I have every fight of Lewis on DVD he is my All time favorite HW and second all time favorite fighter....This is the reason why I feel comfortable with my argument....

Lennox may have been more fit in terms of appearence but look at his older fights the Bruno one in particular since this is the one we are debating on...

Notice Lewis was not as controlled, he did not have the composure that made him so good later on...Lewis swung to much for the fences...Look at how many shots he misses in the finish of Bruno alone....

Lennox Lewis of 2000 did not go in swinging wildly he took his time and took his opp apart...He fought tall used his reach and jab like no one else in the division.....

The HW division of the 1990's is considered by many to be the second strongest era of HW boxing outside of the 1970's...

These guys may have fizzled out in the long run but many of them up until Lewis were either on top of their game or considered to be the nest big thing....

The lesser guys of then would beat just about anyone but the Grimm Brothers today....

The 1990's versions of Morrison, Mercer, Tua, Holyfield and Moorer certainly are steps above Chambers, Arreola, Povetkin, Chagaev etc.....

Haye would not be the WBA champion that is for sure

It's interesting though that of all the names you mentioned only Mercer and Akinwande were much over 30 when they fought Lewis, and in both cases that marked the end of their effective careers, neither won world titles after that.

Most of them were in their late twenties when they were in their primes (according to you) and fought Lennox.

Lennox was a great fighter, he'd have won those fights at 28/29 as well as at 33/34.

Very much like Calzaghe he got his biggest fights late on in his career, but that doesn't mean he wasn't as good if not better earlier on.

Bruno went in with an extrememly dangerous Lennox Lewis who was 29 years old. He wasn't green or inexperienced, he was a world class fighter then too.

I always break Lennox career into 2 phases....Pre Steward and Post Steward...Why my example of his being wild early on then as he got older he became more patient, accurate etc.....

Kind of the same way as Wlad (NO I AM IN NO WAY COMPARING WLAD TO LENNOX PRIME FOR PRIME WLAD SEE'S RING LIGHT FROM HEAVEN EVERY TIME)

But Like Lewis since Steward Wlad has changed for the better,,,He is not so panicked by getting caught by big shots (Though he is still a bit gun shy) he is more relaxed and lets his opp do his work for him....He doesn't chase his guy he stalks patiently using the minimum effort while getting the maximum results....