Why Carl Froch is the greatest super middleweight of this generation

[Fenster]

And Dirrell beat Froch, what's your point?

I'm totally gonna bump this after the S6.

Andrade had bute down on his ass for 30 seconds before the ref finally started counting, by the time the bell had gone bute had been down for almost a minute

care to explain to me how that can compare in any manner to froch-dirrell??

30 seconds? really? FAIL

Dirrell beat Froch period. The whole justification for Froch winning was "he was coming forward" He wasn't landing shit, he wasn't throwing shit, he hadn't a clue of what to do. As long as he was walking forward though he grabs the cards. I think Fenster put it best when he stated that the judges say Dirrell falling all over the place and probably held it against him even though he was clearly winning the rounds.

I'm 100% certain of this. Dirrell only lost because he made the judges think he was losing.

[HattonTheHammer]

Andrade had bute down on his ass for 30 seconds before the ref finally started counting, by the time the bell had gone bute had been down for almost a minute

care to explain to me how that can compare in any manner to froch-dirrell??

30 seconds? really? FAIL

Dirrell beat Froch period. The whole justification for Froch winning was "he was coming forward" He wasn't landing shit, he wasn't throwing shit, he hadn't a clue of what to do. As long as he was walking forward though he grabs the cards. I think Fenster put it best when he stated that the judges say Dirrell falling all over the place and probably held it against him even though he was clearly winning the rounds.

I'm 100% certain of this. Dirrell only lost because he made the judges think he was losing.

Froch fans dont even care about this anymore, its done, froch gets the W, direll gets the big fat L

All we care about now is saturday night and the cobra once again proving he is the best 168pounder in world boxing today

[Nameless]

HTH, are you willing to make a little sig bet that Froch loses against Kessler this week-end and therefore will erase that silly idea that he's the best at at 168?

[HattonTheHammer]

HTH, are you willing to make a little sig bet that Froch loses against Kessler this week-end and therefore will erase that silly idea that he's the best at at 168?

you mean put my money where my mouth is

I`ll call your siggy bet and raise you a siggy/avatar double

[ICB]

HTH, are you willing to make a little sig bet that Froch loses against Kessler this week-end and therefore will erase that silly idea that he's the best at at 168?

you mean put my money where my mouth is

I`ll call your siggy bet and raise you a siggy/avatar double

I'll do a name change bet with you.

[HattonTheHammer]

HTH, are you willing to make a little sig bet that Froch loses against Kessler this week-end and therefore will erase that silly idea that he's the best at at 168?

you mean put my money where my mouth is

I`ll call your siggy bet and raise you a siggy/avatar double

I'll do a name change bet with you.

for a week your on

Have to both pinky swear by it...


pinky swear

[ICB]

you mean put my money where my mouth is

I`ll call your siggy bet and raise you a siggy/avatar double

I'll do a name change bet with you.

for a week your on

Have to both pinky swear by it...


pinky swear

Mate anyone who knows my history here, always knows i stick with my bets. Don't worry if i lose i'll be here the next day.

[Nameless]

HTH, are you willing to make a little sig bet that Froch loses against Kessler this week-end and therefore will erase that silly idea that he's the best at at 168?

you mean put my money where my mouth is

I`ll call your siggy bet and raise you a siggy/avatar double

Accepted. Your sig is already done and I have quite a few ideas as for your avatar Ask to Jaz, I have infinite imagination, he quite appreciated my Marlon B Wright P4P referee" So how long for both? Is 6 weeks something fair to you or?

[HattonTheHammer]

HTH, are you willing to make a little sig bet that Froch loses against Kessler this week-end and therefore will erase that silly idea that he's the best at at 168?

you mean put my money where my mouth is

I`ll call your siggy bet and raise you a siggy/avatar double

Accepted. Your sig is already done and I have quite a few ideas as for your avatar Ask to Jaz, I have infinite imagination, he quite appreciated my Marlon B Wright P4P referee" So how long for both? Is 6 weeks something fair to you or?

i`ll take 2weeks, that`ll be enough embarrasment for you

[Nameless]

you mean put my money where my mouth is

I`ll call your siggy bet and raise you a siggy/avatar double

Accepted. Your sig is already done and I have quite a few ideas as for your avatar Ask to Jaz, I have infinite imagination, he quite appreciated my Marlon B Wright P4P referee" So how long for both? Is 6 weeks something fair to you or?

i`ll take 2weeks, that`ll be enough embarrasment for you

what about a month? I'll use the extra embarrassment to look pitiful and to gather more attentions

[magee]

At the moment he is one of the best, and if he beats kessler and abraham then he is 100% the greatest. Dirrell is a quality fighter and froch didn't get anywere near the credit he deserved for beating him. I hated him afew years back as a person and a boxer, but i think he's quality.

[Darth_Simasu]

What a load of nonsense. Here's a list of super middles past and present that beat Froch 9 out of 10 times: Roy Jones Jr, Joe Calzaghe, James Toney, Andre Ward, Mikkel Kessler, Sakio Bika, Lucian Bute, Chris Eubank, Nigel Benn, Steve Collins, Arthur Abraham.

I still maintain that Dirrel was robbed against Froch. Jermain Taylor schooled him until the 12th, Pascal is just a brawler. 'Greatest' my eye.

[JonnyFolds]

I think Dirrell is a big baby and Froch is a piss poor boxer.

Bute should have lost the first Andrade fight. But now that he wiped the floor with him, I think it's a moot point.

To HTH: Nothing in boxing says the champ gets to take a complete ass whooping if he is ahead on the cards without the threat of the fight being stopped. Aside from that fact he was slumped in his corner after being flattened, he got a looong count, which was actually longer than the original "the long count" (Tunney -Dempsey II)

[ICB]

I think Dirrell is a big baby and Froch is a piss poor boxer.

Bute should have lost the first Andrade fight. But now that he wiped the floor with him, I think it's a moot point.

To HTH: Nothing in boxing says the champ gets to take a complete ass whooping if he is ahead on the cards without the threat of the fight being stopped. Aside from that fact he was slumped in his corner after being flattened, he got a looong count, which was actually longer than the original "the long count" (Tunney -Dempsey II)

Have you actually seen the fight ? he didn't get a long count. Count how long it took him to get up, he clearly got up by 8. And by the time he got up, the time in the round was already over.

Yes what the ref done was wrong telling Librado Andrade to go to the neutral corner. But so what ? that made no difference in the fight, because the time in the round was already over.

All Lucian Bute had to do was get up in time, which he clearly did. He responded to the ref and won legitmately, so why should he have lost ? i keep hearing this but why exactly ? because he was badly hurt ?

So what ? he got up and showed heart and won, he only got in that position because he made a mistake, by trading in the last round. It would of been a bigger robbery had Librado Andrade been given the win. With no time left in the fight.

[JonnyFolds]

I think Dirrell is a big baby and Froch is a piss poor boxer.

Bute should have lost the first Andrade fight. But now that he wiped the floor with him, I think it's a moot point.

To HTH: Nothing in boxing says the champ gets to take a complete ass whooping if he is ahead on the cards without the threat of the fight being stopped. Aside from that fact he was slumped in his corner after being flattened, he got a looong count, which was actually longer than the original "the long count" (Tunney -Dempsey II)

Have you actually seen the fight ? he didn't get a long count. Count how long it took him to get up, he clearly got up by 8. And by the time he got up, the time in the round was already over.

Yes what the ref done was wrong telling Librado Andrade to go to the neutral corner. But so what ? that made no difference in the fight, because the time in the round was already over.

All Lucian Bute had to do was get up in time, which he clearly did. He responded to the ref and won legitmately, so why should he have lost ? i keep hearing this but why exactly ? because he was badly hurt ?

So what ? he got up and showed heart and won, he only got in that position because he made a mistake, by trading in the last round. It would of been a bigger robbery had Librado Andrade been given the win. With no time left in the fight.

I guarantee you he could not take 2 steps forward by the count of 8. Bute was out of it halfway thru the 12th round on.. Even he feels bad about the way he won. What do you think "kept him up at night for a year" according to Bute himself before the rematch.

I'm not sure who was more out of it, 'Meldrick Taylor vs Chavez' or Bute