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    Default Re: Froch-Kessler - who wins? (poll)

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Please stop comparing Froch with Calzaghe. You are the only person on Earth that can see Calzaghe in FRoch. They are nothing alike. Nothing. Well they both have a solid chin. But that's it.
    Im simply stating that he has that unique ability to adapt to different fights just like calzaghe did

    And who are we to say froch wont be better than calzaghe. At this stage of his career calzaghe was fighting tomato cans at cardiff arms park.

    Froch is the best of the 6 fighters if you ask me, just think he may get taken aback come saturday night and fall a tad short
    If Froch has a unique ability then nobody else has it. Calzaghe can't have it too or it wouldn't be unique.

    And Froch just did what he did in his last three fights, walk forward face first throwing punches. The only thing that changed in the Taylor fight was that Taylor ran out of steam and slowed down to Froch speed and Dirrell fought like a prospect away from hom but still won the fight on most peoples' scorecards including the British TV team.

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    Default Re: Froch-Kessler - who wins? (poll)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Please stop comparing Froch with Calzaghe. You are the only person on Earth that can see Calzaghe in FRoch. They are nothing alike. Nothing. Well they both have a solid chin. But that's it.
    Im simply stating that he has that unique ability to adapt to different fights just like calzaghe did

    And who are we to say froch wont be better than calzaghe. At this stage of his career calzaghe was fighting tomato cans at cardiff arms park.

    Froch is the best of the 6 fighters if you ask me, just think he may get taken aback come saturday night and fall a tad short
    If Froch has a unique ability then nobody else has it. Calzaghe can't have it too or it wouldn't be unique.

    And Froch just did what he did in his last three fights, walk forward face first throwing punches. The only thing that changed in the Taylor fight was that Taylor ran out of steam and slowed down to Froch speed and Dirrell fought like a prospect away from hom but still won the fight on most peoples' scorecards including the British TV team.

    I have to agree with Kirkland. Even as a Froch fan I must concede he is arguably the LEAST adaptable fighter in the Super 6 competition.

    He has fought exactly the same way every time I've seen him. He tends to do better when fighters come for him and he can land those uppercuts, but at the level he's fighting at now his opponents have been smarter.

    Joe Calzaghe he most definitely is not.

    I believe it was Killersheep who said rather than adaptable, he is best described by the adjective 'tenacious'. That sums him up perfectly. He has found a way to win so far, not through being adaptable, he changes nothing, but rather he sticks at it, and has great stamina and mental determination.

    You could conceivably argue that he is the mentally strongest fighter in the whole competition, (although we haven't seen Andre Ward' resolve tested yet), but he's simply not adaptable, I would say not even a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post

    Im simply stating that he has that unique ability to adapt to different fights just like calzaghe did

    And who are we to say froch wont be better than calzaghe. At this stage of his career calzaghe was fighting tomato cans at cardiff arms park.

    Froch is the best of the 6 fighters if you ask me, just think he may get taken aback come saturday night and fall a tad short
    If Froch has a unique ability then nobody else has it. Calzaghe can't have it too or it wouldn't be unique.

    And Froch just did what he did in his last three fights, walk forward face first throwing punches. The only thing that changed in the Taylor fight was that Taylor ran out of steam and slowed down to Froch speed and Dirrell fought like a prospect away from hom but still won the fight on most peoples' scorecards including the British TV team.

    I have to agree with Kirkland. Even as a Froch fan I must concede he is arguably the LEAST adaptable fighter in the Super 6 competition.

    He has fought exactly the same way every time I've seen him. He tends to do better when fighters come for him and he can land those uppercuts, but at the level he's fighting at now his opponents have been smarter.

    Joe Calzaghe he most definitely is not.

    I believe it was Killersheep who said rather than adaptable, he is best described by the adjective 'tenacious'. That sums him up perfectly. He has found a way to win so far, not through being adaptable, he changes nothing, but rather he sticks at it, and has great stamina and mental determination.

    You could conceivably argue that he is the mentally strongest fighter in the whole competition, (although we haven't seen Andre Ward' resolve tested yet), but he's simply not adaptable, I would say not even a bit.
    It was me but thanks anyway. I thought it summed it up pretty well.
    Carl Froch and adaptable don't belong in the same sentence unless the sentence also contains 'is' and 'not'.
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    Default Re: Froch-Kessler - who wins? (poll)

    It's written in the stars that Froch is bound to lose this. Just as he's getting some profile in the mainstream media, he'll get sparked out and be back to square one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelie View Post
    It's written in the stars that Froch is bound to lose this. Just as he's getting some profile in the mainstream media, he'll get sparked out and be back to square one.

    No way

    froch will struggle early doors but hurt kessler bad around 6-7. He`ll keep on him like a mad men right up until the final bell and i expect kessler to be out of there around 11ish
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    Do we all agree that Kessler was very much overrated if he loses to Froch on Saturday?

    I mean its always easier with 20/20 hindsight, but the guy has never beat a top level guy. He lost to Calzaghe, took three gimme fights, and then lost to Ward. And now if he loses to Froch, which many don't feel is a top level guy (I disagree there but that is a different conversation), he is 0-3 against top competition. Clearly, he can beat the Andrades and Beyers of the world, but he isn't good enough to beat the top guys. That much we'll know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Do we all agree that Kessler was very much overrated if he loses to Froch on Saturday?

    I mean its always easier with 20/20 hindsight, but the guy has never beat a top level guy. He lost to Calzaghe, took three gimme fights, and then lost to Ward. And now if he loses to Froch, which many don't feel is a top level guy (I disagree there but that is a different conversation), he is 0-3 against top competition. Clearly, he can beat the Andrades and Beyers of the world, but he isn't good enough to beat the top guys. That much we'll know.
    On the three gimme fights I think were out of his control, had to risk being sued to get in the super 6 even though he had the title to begin with so would be harsh to say he ducked anyone, especially considering he's had 3 big away fights as a champ.

    Rather than overrated I'd say he didn't live up to his potential if he loses again, while Ward fought a good fight IMO the result had more to do with Kess being out of sorts, whether that was temporary or permenant we'll find out on Saturday.

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    Default Re: Froch-Kessler - who wins? (poll)

    Quote Originally Posted by ryanman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post

    If Froch has a unique ability then nobody else has it. Calzaghe can't have it too or it wouldn't be unique.

    And Froch just did what he did in his last three fights, walk forward face first throwing punches. The only thing that changed in the Taylor fight was that Taylor ran out of steam and slowed down to Froch speed and Dirrell fought like a prospect away from hom but still won the fight on most peoples' scorecards including the British TV team.

    I have to agree with Kirkland. Even as a Froch fan I must concede he is arguably the LEAST adaptable fighter in the Super 6 competition.

    He has fought exactly the same way every time I've seen him. He tends to do better when fighters come for him and he can land those uppercuts, but at the level he's fighting at now his opponents have been smarter.

    Joe Calzaghe he most definitely is not.

    I believe it was Killersheep who said rather than adaptable, he is best described by the adjective 'tenacious'. That sums him up perfectly. He has found a way to win so far, not through being adaptable, he changes nothing, but rather he sticks at it, and has great stamina and mental determination.

    You could conceivably argue that he is the mentally strongest fighter in the whole competition, (although we haven't seen Andre Ward' resolve tested yet), but he's simply not adaptable, I would say not even a bit.
    It was me but thanks anyway. I thought it summed it up pretty well.
    Carl Froch and adaptable don't belong in the same sentence unless the sentence also contains 'is' and 'not'.
    Yeah i don't believe he's adaptable. Persistent is a good word for him. He just keeps believing in what he is doing and so far it has worked, although the Dirrell fight was one that he got away with imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Yeah i don't believe he's adaptable. Persistent is a good word for him. He just keeps believing in what he is doing and so far it has worked, although the Dirrell fight was one that he got away with imo.
    He doesnt know any better, his trainer and promoter are both sub standard and they cant tell him any different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Yeah i don't believe he's adaptable. Persistent is a good word for him. He just keeps believing in what he is doing and so far it has worked, although the Dirrell fight was one that he got away with imo.
    He doesnt know any better, his trainer and promoter are both sub standard and they cant tell him any different.
    Thats fair for Hennesey but I think McCracken is a decent trainer. As far as I can tell.
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    Default Re: Froch-Kessler - who wins? (poll)

    Kessler because of experience and being much more technically sound. He has to be in shape mentally as well as physically and Froch still moves in one direction and over confidence is a killer. Kessler frustrates the caveman in twelve.

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