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    Default Re: Froch-Kessler - who wins? (poll)

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    On the three gimme fights I think were out of his control, had to risk being sued to get in the super 6 even though he had the title to begin with so would be harsh to say he ducked anyone, especially considering he's had 3 big away fights as a champ.

    Rather than overrated I'd say he didn't live up to his potential if he loses again, while Ward fought a good fight IMO the result had more to do with Kess being out of sorts, whether that was temporary or permenant we'll find out on Saturday.
    Kessler is back in the game if he dominates Froch.

    All I'm saying is that a lot of people had him as the guy to beat in the tournament before it started when he had never actually beat a top level guy. Then when he faced another top level guy in Ward, he was beat yet again.

    And now Ward is the man in the division, but Ward only has a win over Kessler who has never beat a top guy. Ward's win over Kessler will look better if Kessler beats Froch and worse if he doesn't. I'd go as far to say that there is a strong argument that Froch deserves the top spot if Kessler loses on Saturday. If that happens, Froch's wins are definitely better than Ward's thus far. I'd take wins over Kessler, Dirrell, Taylor, and Pascal over Ward's wins any day of the week. We can all agree on that, right?

    Maybe he didn't live up to potential, but at the same time most people were still overrating him...if he loses.
    Every fighter in the sm tournament had zero wins over 'elite' sm fighters. It's easy to overrate a fighter atfer one good win which is what I think ur gettin at with Ward and I agree. Suddenly after JT 'beat' B-Hop he was called 'Undisputed' middle champ, but u should be beatin ALL/MOST the sompetition to claim that, u don't claim the wins your oppponent had like a game of conkers. Then Pavlik beats JT and he's the next demi-god but then he's thrashed by Hop and the fan who wants to easily quantify victories and add them up is all wrong (after reading again dont think I made much sense but hey )

    I agree though that if Kess loses then he showed without doubt that he was too mentally fragile to overcome adversity and be a true player at the top.
    Although I agree with you to an extent, I would argue that we don't know how quality Ward's win was. Maybe Kessler wasn't a win over an elite fighter? I mean Kessler has never beat an elite fighter himself. Froch would be his biggest win. Right?

    Kessler reestablishes himself if he beats Froch.

    I love this fight because it is a big-time Crossroads fight for both guys. If Kessler loses, his career as a top guy is done. It wouldn't be a stretch if depending on his showing in the Ward fight, and I bet he gives a better showing of himself than Kessler, which wouldn't be difficult mind you, Green may very possibly beat Kessler in their fight. Kessler enters the tournament as the top guy and leaves as the bottom guy. If he beats Froch, he is right back in the mix, if not one of the top guys.

    Then again, if Froch wins, he catapults to the top spot. I like wins over Kessler, Dirrell, Taylor, and Pascal more than Ward's wins over Kessler, Green (theoretically), and Miranda. If Froch loses, it's not as much of a big deal because of his other wins, but it makes his Abraham fight huge for him. And if he gets knocked out it may take a lot out of his mental game, which is in my opinion, maybe his biggest strength.
    Last edited by Rantcatrat; 04-23-2010 at 03:15 PM.

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