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    Default Re: Kessler's very flawed performance against Carl Froch-

    Couldn't agree more and Tarver had even pointed it out."This was not the Kessler of a year a two ago". He kept pushing his right hand,kept backing straight up to where all Froch had to do was step forward and throw the right hand and land cleanly. Another no-no from the sport is pulling straight back with your head straight up. Kessler did this all night to where I thought he would get knocked down or worse knocked out. Great fight but alot of stuff needs to be worked on before his next fight. Like getting back to his old self with that piston jab and laser beam right hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fightfan View Post
    Couldn't agree more and Tarver had even pointed it out."This was not the Kessler of a year a two ago". He kept pushing his right hand,kept backing straight up to where all Froch had to do was step forward and throw the right hand and land cleanly. Another no-no from the sport is pulling straight back with your head straight up. Kessler did this all night to where I thought he would get knocked down or worse knocked out. Great fight but alot of stuff needs to be worked on before his next fight. Like getting back to his old self with that piston jab and laser beam right hand.
    Yup, forgot to mention that. Great point... You don't back straight up... Especially against someone who throws wide punches like Froch.

    I'm a Kessler fan and picked him to win the fight but had he just done BASIC shit he would have won by a larger margin, taking far less damage.

    When I saw Froch landing his up-jab round after round I was laughing, like... How do you let that happen if you're Montoya? I would have slapped him myslef in the corner!
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    I agree totally Pride. I actually think Green will beat him at this point, especially if he keeps backs straight out with his head stationary.

    Kessler, to me, looked like a guy clearly on the slide. He looked like one of those fighters/athletes who could still see what needed to be done, but who couldn't make his body react in time. His counters were all just a little late, against a glacier like Froch, and he just looked old to me. Like you said, he was getting hit by a ton of shots that he would have been able to avoid a couple of years ago. I also agreed with what Tarver said about his 1-2. It used to be deadly, but he's clearly lost a step.

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    Anybody catch Froch's tryout for the ballet with his pirouette in the middle of the ring?

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    I can't really say anything bad about Kessler because it was a really gutsy performance but it did feel like I was watching a completely different fighter...
    None of that 'typical European' stuff that were become used to.

    He had the look of a little brawler fighting out of his weightclass. It was weird

    I'll try to remain optimistic with regards to his chances from here on, mainly because I know how terrible Dirrell looked against Froch but then came out looking World Class against Abraham (for the first 7 rounds).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimboogie View Post
    I can't really say anything bad about Kessler because it was a really gutsy performance but it did feel like I was watching a completely different fighter...
    None of that 'typical European' stuff that were become used to.

    He had the look of a little brawler fighting out of his weightclass. It was weird

    I'll try to remain optimistic with regards to his chances from here on, mainly because I know how terrible Dirrell looked against Froch but then came out looking World Class against Abraham (for the first 7 rounds).

    I'm not dogging Kessler but he was making mistakes someone of his caliber shouldn't be making.
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    I was really impressed with Kessler's determination. He just had more will than Froch and that was a main reason he won. Whether it was coming back and taking over the fight after a bad 5th round or fighting like he needed a come from behind KO in the 12th when he was way ahead.

    But yeah he has some issues. Easy to hit. Especially with the left hook and if you throw combos he might block the first or the second but he almost always gets hit with the 3rd or 4th punch. I think Green is a bit of a fraud but he does have some power and his best punch is his left hook so I'm afraid he might catch Kessler with something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    I was really impressed with Kessler's determination. He just had more will than Froch and that was a main reason he won. Whether it was coming back and taking over the fight after a bad 5th round or fighting like he needed a come from behind KO in the 12th when he was way ahead.

    But yeah he has some issues. Easy to hit. Especially with the left hook and if you throw combos he might block the first or the second but he almost always gets hit with the 3rd or 4th punch. I think Green is a bit of a fraud but he does have some power and his best punch is his left hook so I'm afraid he might catch Kessler with something.

    Oh, sure. I thought It was a very fun fight to watch and Kess surely wanted it! I think Green will give him issues, now. I think Kess will still beat him but with each passing fight he's being hit with shit he never was before. Kessler needs to fight the old Kessler's fight and he'll beat Green up.
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    I don't disagree with anything POB stated, but Kessler did say that he knew that he had to fight more of a brawlers fight against Froch, because Froch was going to make it difficult and rough on the inside.. So, maybe Kessler had that too clearly in mind and didn't do the normal stuff he would do - hands up high and jab jab jab right hand. Kessler also used to be really good at keeping his distance and not allowing guys to get in close because of his hard jab, and this did not show against Froch.. I think that if Kessler realizes this, and goes back to basics and trusts his jab and right hand, then he will be fine, and still a favorite in this tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RP33 View Post
    I don't disagree with anything POB stated, but Kessler did say that he knew that he had to fight more of a brawlers fight against Froch, because Froch was going to make it difficult and rough on the inside.. So, maybe Kessler had that too clearly in mind and didn't do the normal stuff he would do - hands up high and jab jab jab right hand. Kessler also used to be really good at keeping his distance and not allowing guys to get in close because of his hard jab, and this did not show against Froch.. I think that if Kessler realizes this, and goes back to basics and trusts his jab and right hand, then he will be fine, and still a favorite in this tournament.

    This could be a possibility. We also know that Kessler isn't good at making solid adjustments during fights so maybe. I just feel that he made the fight far too hard for himself whe the normal Kessler could have walked forward, hands up, jab, jab right handed his way to a UD taking far less damage. You could be right, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
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    Couldn't agree more and Tarver had even pointed it out."This was not the Kessler of a year a two ago". He kept pushing his right hand,kept backing straight up to where all Froch had to do was step forward and throw the right hand and land cleanly. Another no-no from the sport is pulling straight back with your head straight up. Kessler did this all night to where I thought he would get knocked down or worse knocked out. Great fight but alot of stuff needs to be worked on before his next fight. Like getting back to his old self with that piston jab and laser beam right hand.
    Yup, forgot to mention that. Great point... You don't back straight up... Especially against someone who throws wide punches like Froch.

    I'm a Kessler fan and picked him to win the fight but had he just done BASIC shit he would have won by a larger margin, taking far less damage.

    When I saw Froch landing his up-jab round after round I was laughing, like... How do you let that happen if you're Montoya? I would have slapped him myslef in the corner!
    Its easy for Tarver to say this wasnt the Kess of old but he was facing an unbeaten guy who had found a way to win against every style he had met. Kessler was never going to look good in this fight. He knew he had to go to war and slug it out so when a fighter does that they are going to make mistakes. What it did show is that Kessler still has a great chin and bags of heart

    Kessler stops Green and I think he will rematch Ward in the final .
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    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
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    Couldn't agree more and Tarver had even pointed it out."This was not the Kessler of a year a two ago". He kept pushing his right hand,kept backing straight up to where all Froch had to do was step forward and throw the right hand and land cleanly. Another no-no from the sport is pulling straight back with your head straight up. Kessler did this all night to where I thought he would get knocked down or worse knocked out. Great fight but alot of stuff needs to be worked on before his next fight. Like getting back to his old self with that piston jab and laser beam right hand.
    Yup, forgot to mention that. Great point... You don't back straight up... Especially against someone who throws wide punches like Froch.

    I'm a Kessler fan and picked him to win the fight but had he just done BASIC shit he would have won by a larger margin, taking far less damage.

    When I saw Froch landing his up-jab round after round I was laughing, like... How do you let that happen if you're Montoya? I would have slapped him myslef in the corner!
    Its easy for Tarver to say this wasnt the Kess of old but he was facing an unbeaten guy who had found to win against every style he had met. Kessler was never going to look good in this fight. He knew he had to go to war and slug it out so when a fighter does that they are going to make mistakes. What it did show is that Kessler still has a great chin and bags of heart

    Kessler stops Green and I think he will rematch Ward in the final .
    ...and he'll lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
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    Yup, forgot to mention that. Great point... You don't back straight up... Especially against someone who throws wide punches like Froch.

    I'm a Kessler fan and picked him to win the fight but had he just done BASIC shit he would have won by a larger margin, taking far less damage.

    When I saw Froch landing his up-jab round after round I was laughing, like... How do you let that happen if you're Montoya? I would have slapped him myslef in the corner!
    Its easy for Tarver to say this wasnt the Kess of old but he was facing an unbeaten guy who had found to win against every style he had met. Kessler was never going to look good in this fight. He knew he had to go to war and slug it out so when a fighter does that they are going to make mistakes. What it did show is that Kessler still has a great chin and bags of heart

    Kessler stops Green and I think he will rematch Ward in the final .
    ...and he'll lose.
    In America yes but in Denmark Ward wont be able to get away with headbutts and Kessler can rough him up instead

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    What is strange is that Kessler wasn't making these mistakes before, he was technically astonishing, no matter better or worst opposition, he was just not fighting that way. Also, where the hell went his jab? He used to have a beautiful crisp jab with pops, now it look like a loose guitar string. What helped him against Froch though is that he really has beautiful head movement when he's not backing up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    What is strange is that Kessler wasn't making these mistakes before, he was technically astonishing, no matter better or worst opposition, he was just not fighting that way. Also, where the hell went his jab? He used to have a beautiful crisp jab with pops, now it look like a loose guitar string. What helped him against Froch though is that he really has beautiful head movement when he's not backing up.
    Agreed... and also his sheer determination which was unwaivering. He willed himself through that fight even flawed.
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