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    Couldn't agree more and Tarver had even pointed it out."This was not the Kessler of a year a two ago". He kept pushing his right hand,kept backing straight up to where all Froch had to do was step forward and throw the right hand and land cleanly. Another no-no from the sport is pulling straight back with your head straight up. Kessler did this all night to where I thought he would get knocked down or worse knocked out. Great fight but alot of stuff needs to be worked on before his next fight. Like getting back to his old self with that piston jab and laser beam right hand.
    Yup, forgot to mention that. Great point... You don't back straight up... Especially against someone who throws wide punches like Froch.

    I'm a Kessler fan and picked him to win the fight but had he just done BASIC shit he would have won by a larger margin, taking far less damage.

    When I saw Froch landing his up-jab round after round I was laughing, like... How do you let that happen if you're Montoya? I would have slapped him myslef in the corner!
    Its easy for Tarver to say this wasnt the Kess of old but he was facing an unbeaten guy who had found to win against every style he had met. Kessler was never going to look good in this fight. He knew he had to go to war and slug it out so when a fighter does that they are going to make mistakes. What it did show is that Kessler still has a great chin and bags of heart

    Kessler stops Green and I think he will rematch Ward in the final .
    ...and he'll lose.
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    Yup, forgot to mention that. Great point... You don't back straight up... Especially against someone who throws wide punches like Froch.

    I'm a Kessler fan and picked him to win the fight but had he just done BASIC shit he would have won by a larger margin, taking far less damage.

    When I saw Froch landing his up-jab round after round I was laughing, like... How do you let that happen if you're Montoya? I would have slapped him myslef in the corner!
    Its easy for Tarver to say this wasnt the Kess of old but he was facing an unbeaten guy who had found to win against every style he had met. Kessler was never going to look good in this fight. He knew he had to go to war and slug it out so when a fighter does that they are going to make mistakes. What it did show is that Kessler still has a great chin and bags of heart

    Kessler stops Green and I think he will rematch Ward in the final .
    ...and he'll lose.
    In America yes but in Denmark Ward wont be able to get away with headbutts and Kessler can rough him up instead

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    What is strange is that Kessler wasn't making these mistakes before, he was technically astonishing, no matter better or worst opposition, he was just not fighting that way. Also, where the hell went his jab? He used to have a beautiful crisp jab with pops, now it look like a loose guitar string. What helped him against Froch though is that he really has beautiful head movement when he's not backing up.
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    What is strange is that Kessler wasn't making these mistakes before, he was technically astonishing, no matter better or worst opposition, he was just not fighting that way. Also, where the hell went his jab? He used to have a beautiful crisp jab with pops, now it look like a loose guitar string. What helped him against Froch though is that he really has beautiful head movement when he's not backing up.
    Agreed... and also his sheer determination which was unwaivering. He willed himself through that fight even flawed.
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    Its easy for Tarver to say this wasnt the Kess of old but he was facing an unbeaten guy who had found to win against every style he had met. Kessler was never going to look good in this fight. He knew he had to go to war and slug it out so when a fighter does that they are going to make mistakes. What it did show is that Kessler still has a great chin and bags of heart

    Kessler stops Green and I think he will rematch Ward in the final .
    ...and he'll lose.
    In America yes but in Denmark Ward wont be able to get away with headbutts and Kessler can rough him up instead
    If you think that Ward's not going to throw more wrinkles in there's you're crazy but I get what you're saying. Either way I can't see Ward losing to Kessler after the first fight. Too much lateral movement. Kessler was not able to set or counter. It will be some of the smae IMO minus the headbutts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
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    ...and he'll lose.
    In America yes but in Denmark Ward wont be able to get away with headbutts and Kessler can rough him up instead
    If you think that Ward's not going to throw more wrinkles in there's you're crazy but I get what you're saying. Either way I can't see Ward losing to Kessler after the first fight. Too much lateral movement. Kessler was not able to set or counter. It will be some of the smae IMO minus the headbutts.

    Yeah Ward will probably beat Kess again. He just has his number like Vernon had Shanes but I duno if that made him a better fighter. Ward might be the next Hopkins - successful but unappreciated due to his boring hit and hold style and lack of power.

    If Kess was at home and wasnt as much of a warrior he could take a dive after a Ward headbutt and get a DQ win like Dirrell. Kess has too much heart though and props to him for fighting like a warrior. Thats why him and Abraham sell out big venues. The two fights in the States so far have been infront of a dull 2 or 3k. The fans dont want to see negative boxers. They fill out bigger venues for UFC. I hope Green beats Ward and brings some excitment into this tourny for the Yanks. He is a banger with a great style. They will love him if he wins. They need more Gatti type of fighters. Dirrell and Ward are class but they dont have that much true grit or atleast they dont show it . They dont fight with Heart like Kess and Froch so they will never be in a great fight like that. They fight with their heads ( literally in Wards case ) and even though its not great for fans I think it may serve them well.

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    In America yes but in Denmark Ward wont be able to get away with headbutts and Kessler can rough him up instead
    If you think that Ward's not going to throw more wrinkles in there's you're crazy but I get what you're saying. Either way I can't see Ward losing to Kessler after the first fight. Too much lateral movement. Kessler was not able to set or counter. It will be some of the smae IMO minus the headbutts.

    Yeah Ward will probably beat Kess again. He just has his number like Vernon had Shanes but I duno if that made him a better fighter. Ward might be the next Hopkins - successful but unappreciated due to his boring hit and hold style and lack of power.

    If Kess was at home and wasnt as much of a warrior he could take a dive after a Ward headbutt and get a DQ win like Dirrell. Kess has too much heart though and props to him for fighting like a warrior. Thats why him and Abraham sell out big venues. The two fights in the States so far have been infront of a dull 2 or 3k. The fans dont want to see negative boxers. They fill out bigger venues for UFC. I hope Green beats Ward and brings some excitment into this tourny for the Yanks. He is a banger with a great style. They will love him if he wins. They need more Gatti type of fighters. Dirrell and Ward are class but they dont have that much true grit or atleast they dont show it . They dont fight with Heart like Kess and Froch so they will never be in a great fight like that. They fight with their heads ( literally in Wards case ) and even though its not great for fans I think it may serve them well.

    Yeah, I totally agree with this post... There's no way Green beats Ward but if he did, it'd sure shake things up. Agreed about the raw grit factor, as well. I think Ward probably has it, but I can't see it in Dirrell(not to say it's not there... This is souly an oppinion.)

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