WTF was with some of Mayweathers low class comments last night on 24/7?

[DaxxKahn]

Why all the hate if you know that's all he's doing? He's pretty much just acting. Do you got the same hate for actors who play gangsters and rapist in movies?

Exactly, that is the thing - Everyone takes him personally. Although I don't like how hardcore he's puttin it on Shane, I have the common sense to recognise he is doing it to establish the good guy/bad guy divide. It's simple business...Everyone wants to watch a fight where there is one bad guy vs one good guy. Him and Shane will probably be out partying later that night.

Miles for example, I think calling him "filth" is a bit much. Someone who regularly uses his money for good causes as well as spending lavishly I have a hard time labelling as filth.

Someone who waits around for hours after press conferences signing autographs and taking pictures for fans I have a hard time labelling filth. (When "nice" guys like Ricky Hatton duck the fuck out on fans who have been waiting for hours)

You guys remind me of my mum - She hates Samuel L Jackson forever because of the breakfast scene in Pulp Fiction it's irrational

You just need to watch the first two minutes of the episode to see how low Floyd goes. Using the f-bomb to denigrate each of Mosley's losses and then say that he is also going to 'fuck you (Mosley) up' as well. And then you factor in all the preposterous hyperbole about being the greatest ever and all the other nonsense he says. The guy has no class and no respect for anything nor anyone (except his despicable father and family). He is unlikeable full stop. I don't buy into it all being an act, Floyd obviously has always been like this. I do think it is all way too dumb to get worked up about, so in that sense it doesn't really bother me. But I will say it for what it is and that is that I think Floyd is a low quality human being and too obsessed with the shallow things in life.

It will do him good to taste defeat and then go bankrupt. He might learn a little humility and respect.

Well put...Anyone who takes it as personal would be crazy the guy is just someone who will never effect you in any way (Unless you bet it all on him for the Mosley fight)...But How low will one stoop to sell themselves no matter what the role?

Where does it go past showmanship and become the loss of your dignity?

I guess everyone has a price right?

Yet if you are rich upon what one could possibly spent rationally why still do it? Greed?

Maybe Floyd is insecure?

Or just Scum like Sr and Roger?

How about seeing Floyd on 24/7 in 15 year training his son with no teeth in his mouth....Sr still hanging on....

Why does he need so many body guards? No fighter in history other then Ali and the Muslim faction had so many bodyguards....All for show....

[Gandalf]

It's clearly an act to just wind people like Daxx & Miles up to see him get beat. He played the nice guy for years & it got him nowhere.

I have to say the funniest thing is people saying he's going 'too far' with this stuff, talking about 'fucking Mosley up'. Er... this is boxing not tiddlywinks, of course they're going to talk like that.

Even though all the 'hate' is clearly for the cameras, it still ratchets up interest in this fight. I can't wait for Saturday.

I know it's not tiddlywinks, but Floyd annoys me when he says stuff like that and that's the only kind of thing you ever hear him say. Mosley gets 'fucked up' because takes on EVERYBODY. And there is Floyd who picks and chooses and ducks and dives and has the audacity to call himself the greatest of all time? He is not a SRR nor an Ali, not by a long shot. Neither is he a Cotto, or a Mosley, nor even a Pacquiao. The guy is a sham in that regard. These are fighters who will fight proper opponents fight in fight out (though I do have some reservations about Pac). Floyd openly admits that he doesn't give a hoot about legacy and only money. You know what, I believe him when he says that. I don't believe being a complete cretin is the way to build a fanbase nor influence people. I don't like ODLH, but he didn't need to build up his fanbase by 'pretending' to be a vile excuse for a human being. I don't believe it is all an act.

Then he's got you hook, line & sinker. I've seen how Floyd Mayweather is when dealing with his fans and other people when he came to London and it was a stark contrast. This was a guy who very clearly did care about his fans, he spent ages signing stuff for people who'd waited hours to catch a glimpse of him. I'm amazed that for such an astute guy you haven't caught onto this. Shane Mosley is a nice guy (apart from being a drug cheat of course ), why doesn't he have the following & exposure Mayweather does??

Also given he's fighting Mosley, it would be tough to say he hasn't got a legacy that stands up with the best. It does as does Manny Pacquiao's.

Well, maybe he's got me because I just don't see the need to carry on like he does. He has the 24/7's to present himself and all he does is show himself to be a low quality human being. I don't know of any other fighter that has so consistently shown himself to carry out the same 'persona' over so many 24/7's. You don't see DLH, Hatton or Pacquiao needing these 'bad guy' alter ego personas to sell fights. It all leads me to think that Floyd is being just as real as the others have been. I'm sure Floyd has his nice side like everyone does, but I have rarely ever seen it nor been convinced when I have seen the glimpses through television.

Floyd fighting Mosley is a serious step up for him and for that he does deserve some credit. I think there are serious holes in his record of the past several years from JWW and above, but this is a proper fight.

[generalbulldog]

ANd yet on fight night his haters will be tuning in to watch him, maybe even buy his fights. Even if you guys don't, you know you'll be trying to catch a free stream or something.

I'll be watching this in the theaters. Should be a cracking fight and money well spent.

[JazMerkin]

Well, maybe he's got me because I just don't see the need to carry on like he does. He has the 24/7's to present himself and all he does is show himself to be a low quality human being. I don't know of any other fighter that has so consistently shown himself to carry out the same 'persona' over so many 24/7's. You don't see DLH, Hatton or Pacquiao needing these 'bad guy' alter ego personas to sell fights. It all leads me to think that Floyd is being just as real as the others have been. I'm sure Floyd has his nice side like everyone does, but I have rarely ever seen it nor been convinced when I have seen the glimpses through television.

Floyd fighting Mosley is a serious step up for him and for that he does deserve some credit. I think there are serious holes in his record of the past several years from JWW and above, but this is a proper fight.

But, then you're buying that how they are in 24/7 is how they are as people. I've heard from a number of people who've met him that Hatton is very rarely the 'man of the people' that he portrays himself to be. Given how dull they were on 24/7, you'd have never guessed that Miguel Cotto was sexually harassing women & Calzaghe had half of Bogota up his nasal passage.

Fight Camp 360 appears to be very much about showing how the fighters really are, 24/7 is about presenting them how we want them to be. It basically operates as a almost WWE-like promotional tool. They're much more determined than Showtime are to create dynamics and good/bad guys.

[Gandalf]

Well, maybe he's got me because I just don't see the need to carry on like he does. He has the 24/7's to present himself and all he does is show himself to be a low quality human being. I don't know of any other fighter that has so consistently shown himself to carry out the same 'persona' over so many 24/7's. You don't see DLH, Hatton or Pacquiao needing these 'bad guy' alter ego personas to sell fights. It all leads me to think that Floyd is being just as real as the others have been. I'm sure Floyd has his nice side like everyone does, but I have rarely ever seen it nor been convinced when I have seen the glimpses through television.

Floyd fighting Mosley is a serious step up for him and for that he does deserve some credit. I think there are serious holes in his record of the past several years from JWW and above, but this is a proper fight.

But, then you're buying that how they are in 24/7 is how they are as people. I've heard from a number of people who've met him that Hatton is very rarely the 'man of the people' that he portrays himself to be. Given how dull they were on 24/7, you'd have never guessed that Miguel Cotto was sexually harassing women & Calzaghe had half of Bogota up his nasal passage.

Fight Camp 360 appears to be very much about showing how the fighters really are, 24/7 is about presenting them how we want them to be. It basically operates as a almost WWE-like promotional tool. They're much more determined than Showtime are to create dynamics and good/bad guys.

I'm sure it's not completely how they are, but to an extent you would hope that you are seeing something real. Maybe everything is just propaganda, but I would hope not. I just don't know why you would want your own propaganda to be so awful. Like I say, I don't see how that carry on can win you any supporters.

I agree that the 360 programme is really well done. It makes you think you are seeing things in real time and it isn't all planned out.

[JazMerkin]

Well, maybe he's got me because I just don't see the need to carry on like he does. He has the 24/7's to present himself and all he does is show himself to be a low quality human being. I don't know of any other fighter that has so consistently shown himself to carry out the same 'persona' over so many 24/7's. You don't see DLH, Hatton or Pacquiao needing these 'bad guy' alter ego personas to sell fights. It all leads me to think that Floyd is being just as real as the others have been. I'm sure Floyd has his nice side like everyone does, but I have rarely ever seen it nor been convinced when I have seen the glimpses through television.

Floyd fighting Mosley is a serious step up for him and for that he does deserve some credit. I think there are serious holes in his record of the past several years from JWW and above, but this is a proper fight.

But, then you're buying that how they are in 24/7 is how they are as people. I've heard from a number of people who've met him that Hatton is very rarely the 'man of the people' that he portrays himself to be. Given how dull they were on 24/7, you'd have never guessed that Miguel Cotto was sexually harassing women & Calzaghe had half of Bogota up his nasal passage.

Fight Camp 360 appears to be very much about showing how the fighters really are, 24/7 is about presenting them how we want them to be. It basically operates as a almost WWE-like promotional tool. They're much more determined than Showtime are to create dynamics and good/bad guys.

I'm sure it's not completely how they are, but to an extent you would hope that you are seeing something real. Maybe everything is just propaganda, but I would hope not. I just don't know why you would want your own propaganda to be so awful. Like I say, I don't see how that carry on can win you any supporters.

I agree that the 360 programme is really well done. It makes you think you are seeing things in real time and it isn't all planned out.

I can tell you for a fact that it gets a lot of young fans, who like the trash talking that evolved from the old WWE & rap music. I think boxing, particularly how it is reported by the boxing media, definitely feeds into the wrestling ideals of goodies & baddies. Some guys are nice guys so they can get away with cheating (Mosley, Abraham etc), whilst others are set up to be bad guys so get no sympathy even when they do little wrong (Mayweather, Froch, Paulie etc)

[RP33]

But, then you're buying that how they are in 24/7 is how they are as people. I've heard from a number of people who've met him that Hatton is very rarely the 'man of the people' that he portrays himself to be. Given how dull they were on 24/7, you'd have never guessed that Miguel Cotto was sexually harassing women & Calzaghe had half of Bogota up his nasal passage.

Fight Camp 360 appears to be very much about showing how the fighters really are, 24/7 is about presenting them how we want them to be. It basically operates as a almost WWE-like promotional tool. They're much more determined than Showtime are to create dynamics and good/bad guys.

I'm sure it's not completely how they are, but to an extent you would hope that you are seeing something real. Maybe everything is just propaganda, but I would hope not. I just don't know why you would want your own propaganda to be so awful. Like I say, I don't see how that carry on can win you any supporters.

I agree that the 360 programme is really well done. It makes you think you are seeing things in real time and it isn't all planned out.

I can tell you for a fact that it gets a lot of young fans, who like the trash talking that evolved from the old WWE & rap music. I think boxing, particularly how it is reported by the boxing media, definitely feeds into the wrestling ideals of goodies & baddies. Some guys are nice guys so they can get away with cheating (Mosley, Abraham etc), whilst others are set up to be bad guys so get no sympathy even when they do little wrong (Mayweather, Froch, Paulie etc)

Well put.. Just like rappers and the like, talk about how much money they make in their music, floyd does the same..

I'm not a fan of how he acts on the 24/7 and such, but he's always a classy guy in the ring as far as i'm concerned.. he's all business, and after the fight he's a completely different person from what he is on 24/7 when talking about his opponents and such. I think floyd is very grateful for everything he has, considering what he started from.. He wants the on top of the world feeling, and i don't think you can hate on that.

[Gandalf]

But, then you're buying that how they are in 24/7 is how they are as people. I've heard from a number of people who've met him that Hatton is very rarely the 'man of the people' that he portrays himself to be. Given how dull they were on 24/7, you'd have never guessed that Miguel Cotto was sexually harassing women & Calzaghe had half of Bogota up his nasal passage.

Fight Camp 360 appears to be very much about showing how the fighters really are, 24/7 is about presenting them how we want them to be. It basically operates as a almost WWE-like promotional tool. They're much more determined than Showtime are to create dynamics and good/bad guys.

I'm sure it's not completely how they are, but to an extent you would hope that you are seeing something real. Maybe everything is just propaganda, but I would hope not. I just don't know why you would want your own propaganda to be so awful. Like I say, I don't see how that carry on can win you any supporters.

I agree that the 360 programme is really well done. It makes you think you are seeing things in real time and it isn't all planned out.

I can tell you for a fact that it gets a lot of young fans, who like the trash talking that evolved from the old WWE & rap music. I think boxing, particularly how it is reported by the boxing media, definitely feeds into the wrestling ideals of goodies & baddies. Some guys are nice guys so they can get away with cheating (Mosley, Abraham etc), whilst others are set up to be bad guys so get no sympathy even when they do little wrong (Mayweather, Froch, Paulie etc)

Yeah, perhaps.

I don't know about WWE nor rap so I have no idea if that's the kind of thing that they like. If that's what motivates them then I do think it is an inferior way of approaching things though. I will never relate to a person like Floyd with the way he carries on.

The media might create goodies and baddies, but Floyd does only set himself up as a bad guy. How can you support the guy? I think his stance on drug testing was correct, but on everthing else he loses me.

I think the issue with Floyd is more than simply the media being against him. It's the selective choosing of opponents and the endless trashtalk. Put together they make someone that a boxing fan finds hard to respect to the full.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

People can dog me for saying this all they want... I don't care.

If Floyd were to get into a ridiculous car crash tomorrow and mangle his legs... My first thought would be:

"Well, that clears up the Welterweight and P4P picture a bit."

I hate mayweather skilled or not(which, of course he is)...

[TheMacMagician]

People can dog me for saying this all they want... I don't care.

If Floyd were to get into a ridiculous car crash tomorrow and mangle his legs... My first thought would be:

"Well, that clears up the Welterweight and P4P picture a bit."

I hate mayweather skilled or not(which, of course he is)...

Harsh man, Harsh....... He atleast gives boxing a bad guy to wanna see beat up. No good superhero story is good enough without the villain. He'll come a cropper for sure, and you might only have to wait till saturday night to see it. I can't wait to see the look on Floyds face when he's looking up from the seat of his pants wondering what the f**k just happened. Ha ha, backs to the wall time....

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

People can dog me for saying this all they want... I don't care.

If Floyd were to get into a ridiculous car crash tomorrow and mangle his legs... My first thought would be:

"Well, that clears up the Welterweight and P4P picture a bit."

I hate mayweather skilled or not(which, of course he is)...

Harsh man, Harsh....... He atleast gives boxing a bad guy to wanna see beat up. No good superhero story is good enough without the villain. He'll come a cropper for sure, and you might only have to wait till saturday night to see it. I can't wait to see the look on Floyds face when he's looking up from the seat of his pants wondering what the f**k just happened. Ha ha, backs to the wall time....

Having a villain is only fun when the villain gets beat.

[smashup]

It's all for show/hype...whatever you want to call it.

I met Floyd last year and he was sound as a pound, signed some gloves for the kids, posed for pics etc..

Thought he was a little ignorant by leaving his I-Pod headphones on

We had a cigarette with his mum and she is a top lady and a really nice and genuine person.

Had a good laugh with her actually.

[TheMacMagician]

People can dog me for saying this all they want... I don't care.

If Floyd were to get into a ridiculous car crash tomorrow and mangle his legs... My first thought would be:

"Well, that clears up the Welterweight and P4P picture a bit."

I hate mayweather skilled or not(which, of course he is)...

Harsh man, Harsh....... He atleast gives boxing a bad guy to wanna see beat up. No good superhero story is good enough without the villain. He'll come a cropper for sure, and you might only have to wait till saturday night to see it. I can't wait to see the look on Floyds face when he's looking up from the seat of his pants wondering what the f**k just happened. Ha ha, backs to the wall time....

Having a villain is only fun when the villain gets beat.

Your right, not many if any villains get away scott free though, so who knows. I hope the villain's time has come. On saturday we'll see...

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Harsh man, Harsh....... He atleast gives boxing a bad guy to wanna see beat up. No good superhero story is good enough without the villain. He'll come a cropper for sure, and you might only have to wait till saturday night to see it. I can't wait to see the look on Floyds face when he's looking up from the seat of his pants wondering what the f**k just happened. Ha ha, backs to the wall time....

Having a villain is only fun when the villain gets beat.

Your right, not many if any villains get away scott free though, so who knows. I hope the villain's time has come. On saturday we'll see...

I know what's going to happen... The exact opposite what I WANT to happen. I will pay 55 bucks to watch Floyd pot shot and counter an older version of Mosley who will not be able to close distance all night. I pray I'm wrong but... Well... Mayweather has a way of raping people out of their money promising an entertaining fight and delivering a fantastic defensive boxing display that no one wants to see . Most people buy his fights to watch him get KO'd and it never comes. Floyd is an amazing defensive boxer... No doubt. But I'm not paying for that. I'm paying for SOMETHING... Something of substance.

[Dizaster]

Dunno if anyone else mentioned this, but I found it funny how much Floyd keeps on about this steroid use of Mosley, yet his entire entourage looks like the have replaced 80% their whole meals with the stuff....

I know it's irrelevant for boxing, but you'd think one of them might be embarrassed in the corner while Floyd has the 24/7 camera in his face like "yo what sort of hopeless loser uses steroid!"

Floyd don't care about the roids... He cares more about his "0" now, and he'll go to extra length not to lose it.. ie. introducing new rules for his fights which make SURE his opponent isn't doing anything extra that might beat him..

But I mean, i'm all for that in reality... Other boxers shouldn't be taking advantage from steroids... Boxing in general should be testing a LOT more... But I don't think he's doing it for boxing as a whole.. He's doin it for him... But hopefully it catches on anyway..