After last nights fight does anyone doubt Bute and Ward are the best SMWTS in the wor

[Fenster]

Until the S6 what SMW was "The fighting champion?"...

IMO Froch may have had the toughest run of them all

Kessler prior 2 were Perdomo and Haussler

AA- Oral and Simon

Taylor- Froch and Lacey

Dirrell- Findley and Oganov

Ward- Miranda and Pudwill

Froch- Taylor and Pascal

Bute- Andrade and Miranda

Now outside of Froch who had won the title from a guy who is now a LHW champion and fought a former undisputed champion...Are we really going to pretend any of the others prior 2 were better then Butes?...At least Miranda is dangerous with 1 shot at anytime and he has only lost to Pavlik, AA and Ward...

Librado has only lost to a prime Kessler a version that most thought would beat Calzaghe....I can pull up the threads to prove even here 80% picked Kessler...Librado has KO wins over former world champions and a cuirrent one so he cant be that bad can he?......Who has Pudwill beat? Simon?...

C'mon lets be honest here the paper doesn't lie...

You can't just ignore the Super Six form.

Ward and Dirrell were totally unexposed before the tournament. They could have flopped but proved to be world-class fighters. Andrade is a good fighter. But he'd been slaughtered by a guy that has lost in the Super Six. Which is clearly a knock on the Bute win.

Bute may very well be the best supermiddle. But until he gets in the mix with those guys (the six other best fighters in the world) he shouldn't be regarded the best because quite simply he is not fighting the best

Fair enough....If it was not for the Rematch with Andrade keeping him out I think it is fair we agree he would be up 6 to 3 on AA and 6-2 on the rest..

Other then that time will let us know

What does that mean?

Against the Super Six I think....

If Andrade can spark Bute (almost) then Abraham has a great chance of putting him to sleep and Froch has a decent chance of turning him into a staggering drunk.

Kessler, Ward and Dirrell would all be coin tosses.

Bute beats Green though. Basically all bar Green are coin tosses.

[DaxxKahn]

You can't just ignore the Super Six form.

Ward and Dirrell were totally unexposed before the tournament. They could have flopped but proved to be world-class fighters. Andrade is a good fighter. But he'd been slaughtered by a guy that has lost in the Super Six. Which is clearly a knock on the Bute win.

Bute may very well be the best supermiddle. But until he gets in the mix with those guys (the six other best fighters in the world) he shouldn't be regarded the best because quite simply he is not fighting the best

Fair enough....If it was not for the Rematch with Andrade keeping him out I think it is fair we agree he would be up 6 to 3 on AA and 6-2 on the rest..

Other then that time will let us know

What does that mean?

Against the Super Six I think....

If Andrade can spark Bute (almost) then Abraham has a great chance of putting him to sleep and Froch has a decent chance of turning him into a staggering drunk.

Kessler, Ward and Dirrell would all be coin tosses.

Bute beats Green though. Basically all bar Green are coin tosses.

I was just saying what the points would be if he was in the S6 now...AA has 3 points everyone else 2 Green has 0...was kidding is all