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    Default Re: Calzaghe Returns!!!

    This job biscuit stuff is insane!

    Stay retired Joe, nothing more to prove despite what the critics say.

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    Default Re: Calzaghe Returns!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    if he tries to take on anyone in the super six, Bute, or the top dogs at Lightheavy he can say goodbye to that 0 and his only claim to fame
    Behave yourself, Bute would be lucky to beat Jermain Taylor

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    Quote Originally Posted by denilson200 View Post
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    if he tries to take on anyone in the super six, Bute, or the top dogs at Lightheavy he can say goodbye to that 0 and his only claim to fame
    Behave yourself, Bute would be lucky to beat Jermain Taylor
    You behave yourself... Bute would KO Taylor. Ridiculous statement.
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    Robin Reid? Who wants to see that?

    Given the current landscape with Froch tied up, there are only two people I'd like to see Calzaghe fight: Chad Dawson and Lucian Bute. Lucian Bute v. Joe Calzaghe on HBO would be a big event. It's just the kind of fight Lucian Bute needs with the rest of the top guys tied up in the super six. And he does great business in Montreal. Plus HBO is high on him because of his last two performances destroying Andrade and Miranda.
    No, it wouldn't, sadly. People aren't interested in 2 white guys duking it out. Remember Kessler-Calzaghe? It did nothing in the States.
    Thats because neither fighter had spent anytime here....Neither man had an over abundance of fights even shown here during their career...It was bad marketing not lack of caring if they were white...

    I guess you forget about the interest two of boxings whitest guys in 25 years "Irish" Micky Ward and Arturo Gatti
    They are pale skinned but not sure if they are "white"? Does white just mean European? Spain and Portugal are in Europe and they are hispanic? but anyway what about Barrera and Morales? Marquez and Vasquez? In fact to counter the crappy race argument, name a fight as exciting as Morales v Barrera, marquez v Vasquez and Gatti v Ward with a non white fighter in?? All those fights had rematches because of their quality.

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    I it all revolves aroudn Andre Ward. Kessler has been exposed, Abraham has been exposed, Froch and Dirrel. But If Ward wins the Super 6 (As I think he will) then a fight with a 40 year old Calzaghe would be interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by denilson200 View Post
    I it all revolves aroudn Andre Ward. Kessler has been exposed, Abraham has been exposed, Froch and Dirrel. But If Ward wins the Super 6 (As I think he will) then a fight with a 40 year old Calzaghe would be interesting
    You think Calzaghe would come back to be nutted to death by a Jesus freak? Not gonna happen. I don't think Ward is as good as certain people are saying he is anyway. He does have a really hard head though.

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    Joe needs to stay retired. He's got nothing to prove. He's had a great career and he finished on a high. Even now I'm pretty confident he'd beat everyone in the super-six with the exception of Ward and maybe Dirrell and that's only because I still feel their untested. They both had good wins against Kessler and Abraham respectively but I don't doubt for one second that Joe would run rings around Abraham and he's already beaten Kessler, although not quite as convincingly as Wards head did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrislfc17 View Post
    Joe needs to stay retired. He's got nothing to prove. He's had a great career and he finished on a high. Even now I'm pretty confident he'd beat everyone in the super-six with the exception of Ward and maybe Dirrell and that's only because I still feel their untested. They both had good wins against Kessler and Abraham respectively but I don't doubt for one second that Joe would run rings around Abraham and he's already beaten Kessler, although not quite as convincingly as Wards head did.
    The Kessler that fought Joe was a different Kessler. Though, I agree. Nobody has ever really been neck and neck in a fight with Joe for 6 rounds.
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    Joe needs to stay retired. He's got nothing to prove. He's had a great career and he finished on a high. Even now I'm pretty confident he'd beat everyone in the super-six with the exception of Ward and maybe Dirrell and that's only because I still feel their untested. They both had good wins against Kessler and Abraham respectively but I don't doubt for one second that Joe would run rings around Abraham and he's already beaten Kessler, although not quite as convincingly as Wards head did.
    The Kessler that fought Joe was a different Kessler. Though, I agree. Nobody has ever really been neck and neck in a fight with Joe for 6 rounds.
    One name Robin Reid who i think beat Joe Calzaghe, and he also deserved to win against Sven Ottke. What a shame Robin Reid lost controversial decisions, to two of the longest reigning champions in that weightclass. How history could of been so different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by denilson200 View Post
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    if he tries to take on anyone in the super six, Bute, or the top dogs at Lightheavy he can say goodbye to that 0 and his only claim to fame
    Behave yourself, Bute would be lucky to beat Jermain Taylor
    You behave yourself... Bute would KO Taylor. Ridiculous statement.
    ...Put em line POB....


    Is this guy kidding me? Bute luck top beat Taylor? These guys kill me with this shit.....I love how people down Bute for one bad moment (The 12th Vs Andrade 1) and all of a sudden he gets whipped on by everyone at SMW...

    Other then a possible stamina issue what are Butes shortcomings?

    Speed= Among the best in the sport

    Chin= He has taken big time punches...Miranda landed a few monster shots Bute barely flinched

    Power= He has some very impressive stoppages including some very very impressive 1 punch knockouts..

    Defense= better then average....

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    @ Pride of Boston...It's difficult to tell if Kessler is a different fighter from when he fought Joe. He has no reason not to be the same fighter other than maybe psychologically that loss took a bit out of Kessler? Who knows?

    @ICB...That fight with Reid really could have gone either way. It's one of those where you wouldn't begrudge the win for either guy. Joe got the decision and that was that. That for me was his closest fight. The only thing that annoyed me was no rematch. Joe's actually one of my favourite fighters and the one and only time I've even been to a live fight was in Cardiff for his win against Kessler but the one thing that annoyed me about Joe was not giving rematches, with the exception of Veit. The loser in the Calzaghe - Reid fight deserved a rematch. Reid was robbed against Ottke though. The ref was abysmal in that fight!

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    @ Pride of Boston...It's difficult to tell if Kessler is a different fighter from when he fought Joe. He has no reason not to be the same fighter other than maybe psychologically that loss took a bit out of Kessler? Who knows?

    @ICB...That fight with Reid really could have gone either way. It's one of those where you wouldn't begrudge the win for either guy. Joe got the decision and that was that. That for me was his closest fight. The only thing that annoyed me was no rematch. Joe's actually one of my favourite fighters and the one and only time I've even been to a live fight was in Cardiff for his win against Kessler but the one thing that annoyed me about Joe was not giving rematches, with the exception of Veit. The loser in the Calzaghe - Reid fight deserved a rematch. Reid was robbed against Ottke though. The ref was abysmal in that fight!

    Oh i agree it was close i have no problem, with either guy getting the decision. But i had Robin Reid just nicking it, but yes he was for certain robbed vs Sven Ottke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrislfc17 View Post
    @ Pride of Boston...It's difficult to tell if Kessler is a different fighter from when he fought Joe. He has no reason not to be the same fighter other than maybe psychologically that loss took a bit out of Kessler? Who knows?

    @ICB...That fight with Reid really could have gone either way. It's one of those where you wouldn't begrudge the win for either guy. Joe got the decision and that was that. That for me was his closest fight. The only thing that annoyed me was no rematch. Joe's actually one of my favourite fighters and the one and only time I've even been to a live fight was in Cardiff for his win against Kessler but the one thing that annoyed me about Joe was not giving rematches, with the exception of Veit. The loser in the Calzaghe - Reid fight deserved a rematch. Reid was robbed against Ottke though. The ref was abysmal in that fight!
    True... I guess it's more of an opinion than something that can be guaged. That's how I feel, though.
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    Reid was a very decent fighter in his day. Bute vs calzaghe would be a very interesting fight indeed. I would favour a prime calzaghe, but if he was too come back who nos. It depends on how much he has lost





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