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I forgot who said it, but someone here said that Roberto Duran has the greatest accomplishments of a fighter in the last 30 years or so. And I have to agree. For Floyd to be best ever, just ask yourself if he's accomplished more than Roberto Duran (a modern all time great) even if he beats Mosley and Mayweather.

My answer would be no, and Duran is a top 5 fighter of all time by many boxing publications and fans.

I may not even see someone being better than DUran in terms of skills, accomplishments and longevity in my lifetime.

I'm not sure I honestly think Manny Pacquaio has done more than Duran now.

Duran was a great for sure but he lost the most significant fights of his career, the second fight with Leonard, was KO'd by Hearns, lost to Hagler. Manny has moved up higher in comparison from where he started and dominated the top guys.

I do think nostalgia creeps in a little bit with Leonard, Duran, Hearns and Hagler.

I actually agree with Taeth to an extent. They are rated so highly because their fights against each other were often wars and wildly entertaining.

Floyd beats his opponents with comparative ease and ironically gets downgraded because of it.

For the record I think Floyd beats Duran. Too smart to engage and let him fight his fight, he'd box him and keep away. If Kirklaind Laing could do it Floyd undoubtedly could.

I didn't want to turn this into a Duran thread. But Duran is arguably the greatest 135 pounder. A natural lightweight that beat a prime Leonard convincingly in their 1st fight. Floyd and Manny ain't beating prime Leonard at 147. And for sure they ain't going to beat Tommy Hearns at 147 or 154. Could they go 15 against Hagler? Remember Duran was winning that fight after 12 and would have been MW champ if it was by today's rules. He also beat a top 3 154 pounder in Davey Moore for his title. Also beat Iran Barkley for a piece of the MW title at 38.

Remember for those losses you brought up, he lost them out of his prime weight. And he started his career as a bantamweight, 118 pounds.

He didn't need to fight guys at a catchweight either or demanded all kinds of advantages in his favor like Leonard or Manny.

I used Duran because he's a modern great instead of SRR who's not considered to be a modern fighter. Ain't no modern guy has the resume or accomplishments of Duran today.