I don't see Floyd-Pac being competitive after that performance

[The Shadow]

Don't know where all these people are coming out with "why you hating on Mayweather?" I don't know. Maybe because he's a punk-ass, scumbag without a shred of character of decency?

Great fighter? Yes. An all time Great? Yes. A decent, morally upright human?
Hell no.

[markb018]

Don't know where all these people are coming out with "why you hating on Mayweather?" I don't know. Maybe because he's a punk-ass, scumbag without a shred of character of decency?

Great fighter? Yes. An all time Great? Yes. A decent, morally upright human?
Hell no.

The man is selling fights. People are trying to downplay his performance which was nothing short of amazing.

Hate his schtick, fine, but the man is brilliant in the ring.

[The Shadow]

Don't know where all these people are coming out with "why you hating on Mayweather?" I don't know. Maybe because he's a punk-ass, scumbag without a shred of character of decency?

Great fighter? Yes. An all time Great? Yes. A decent, morally upright human?
Hell no.

The man is selling fights. People are trying to downplay his performance which was nothing short of amazing.

Hate his schtick, fine, but the man is brilliant in the ring.

Don't think it's a "schtick" at all. I think it's ingrained in his genetic make-up to be a scumbag. But I'm in full agreement: he's a complete wonder in the ring. Definitely an ATG.

[markb018]

Don't know where all these people are coming out with "why you hating on Mayweather?" I don't know. Maybe because he's a punk-ass, scumbag without a shred of character of decency?

Great fighter? Yes. An all time Great? Yes. A decent, morally upright human?
Hell no.

The man is selling fights. People are trying to downplay his performance which was nothing short of amazing.

Hate his schtick, fine, but the man is brilliant in the ring.

Don't think it's a "schtick" at all. I think it's ingrained in his genetic make-up to be a scumbag. But I'm in full agreement: he's a complete wonder in the ring. Definitely an ATG.

i have heard from numerous people that when meeting Floyd in the public he is nothing short of a gentleman. He takes time to sign autographs, take pictures, etc.

[The Shadow]

The man is selling fights. People are trying to downplay his performance which was nothing short of amazing.

Hate his schtick, fine, but the man is brilliant in the ring.

Don't think it's a "schtick" at all. I think it's ingrained in his genetic make-up to be a scumbag. But I'm in full agreement: he's a complete wonder in the ring. Definitely an ATG.

i have heard from numerous people that when meeting Floyd in the public he is nothing short of a gentleman. He takes time to sign autographs, take pictures, etc.

As he should be. After all, the fans are what has made him a multi-millionaire. Of course, that sounds like I'm discounting all the hard work that goes into the preparation for a fight, but I'm not. These guys break their butts. I also give the man credit for being a technical phenom in the ring.

Another poster mentioned biases in this thread, which I'm a bit puzzled by:
There isn't one among us - not one - that doesn't have a bias toward a particular athlete, or a general bias with any host of life events/decisions, etc. It's ridiculous. Having biases is ingrained in our own makeup. It's just part of the human condition.

Bearing that in mind, I only know of Mayweather from what I've seen on television, the internet and through magazines. I haven't met the man personally. Perhaps I'd be so astonished at what a good, morally upright man he is that I would dramatically change my opinion. But the likelihood of this taking place is remote at best. I just generally favor boxers that minimize the trash talk and do their talking in the ring. But that's just me.

[Majesty]

Don't think it's a "schtick" at all. I think it's ingrained in his genetic make-up to be a scumbag. But I'm in full agreement: he's a complete wonder in the ring. Definitely an ATG.

i have heard from numerous people that when meeting Floyd in the public he is nothing short of a gentleman. He takes time to sign autographs, take pictures, etc.

As he should be. After all, the fans are what has made him a multi-millionaire. Of course, that sounds like I'm discounting all the hard work that goes into the preparation for a fight, but I'm not. These guys break their butts. I also give the man credit for being a technical phenom in the ring.

Another poster mentioned biases in this thread, which I'm a bit puzzled by:
There isn't one among us - not one - that doesn't have a bias toward a particular athlete, or a general bias with any host of life events/decisions, etc. It's ridiculous. Having biases is ingrained in our own makeup. It's just part of the human condition.

Bearing that in mind, I only know of Mayweather from what I've seen on television, the internet and through magazines. I haven't met the man personally. Perhaps I'd be so astonished at what a good, morally upright man he is that I would dramatically change my opinion. But the likelihood of this taking place is remote at best. I just generally favor boxers that minimize the trash talk and do their talking in the ring. But that's just me.

Personally I'd rather a fighter be a jerk to sale a fight "good guy vs bad guy" Then a guy that always acts like a good guy but off the record is a prick. To me thats more annoying.

[The Shadow]

i have heard from numerous people that when meeting Floyd in the public he is nothing short of a gentleman. He takes time to sign autographs, take pictures, etc.

As he should be. After all, the fans are what has made him a multi-millionaire. Of course, that sounds like I'm discounting all the hard work that goes into the preparation for a fight, but I'm not. These guys break their butts. I also give the man credit for being a technical phenom in the ring.

Another poster mentioned biases in this thread, which I'm a bit puzzled by:
There isn't one among us - not one - that doesn't have a bias toward a particular athlete, or a general bias with any host of life events/decisions, etc. It's ridiculous. Having biases is ingrained in our own makeup. It's just part of the human condition.

Bearing that in mind, I only know of Mayweather from what I've seen on television, the internet and through magazines. I haven't met the man personally. Perhaps I'd be so astonished at what a good, morally upright man he is that I would dramatically change my opinion. But the likelihood of this taking place is remote at best. I just generally favor boxers that minimize the trash talk and do their talking in the ring. But that's just me.

Personally I'd rather a fighter be a jerk to sale a fight "good guy vs bad guy" Then a guy that always acts like a good guy but off the record is a prick. To me thats more annoying.

Point well taken, M. I completely understand where you are coming from, but I respectfully disagree. If trash-talk and being a "jerk" is what it takes to sell a fight, we'd have a ton of Mayorga's fighting each other. Perhaps I'm just an old-fashioned idealist, and believe that talent and style contrasts should ultimately sell a fight. However, marketing is an important factor. But that doesn't mean that marketing has to be reduced to fighters' trash-talk.

I just came across the following numbers, and they're really instructive, as well as a bit disconcerting:

Top Pay Per View Events in Boxing History

The truth is often a bit hard to take in.

[ruthless rocco]

so many opinions... so many biases...

surely there's one thing we can agree on.

since floyd only signs up for fights he knows he's going to win...
(just look to his record for proof.)
and...since floyd won't sign to fight pac...
we can safely assume that floyd knows something we don't:
that he would lose to him.

agreed?

[markb018]

so many opinions... so many biases...

surely there's one thing we can agree on.

since floyd only signs up for fights he knows he's going to win...
(just look to his record for proof.)
and...since floyd won't sign to fight pac...
we can safely assume that floyd knows something we don't:
that he would lose to him.

agreed?

except Floyd signed to fight Pac, Manny wouldnt sign cause of the blood tests. Glad you notice bias in here as well

[ruthless rocco]

so many opinions... so many biases...

surely there's one thing we can agree on.

since floyd only signs up for fights he knows he's going to win...
(just look to his record for proof.)
and...since floyd won't sign to fight pac...
we can safely assume that floyd knows something we don't:
that he would lose to him.

agreed?

except Floyd signed to fight Pac, Manny wouldnt sign cause of the blood tests. Glad you notice bias in here as well

right. but under the rules governing boxing if they were to fight he would clearly lose or they would fight. and mayweather keeps saying he wants an even fair fight. well they're both held to the same standards. thats the definition of fair. (uhh... is it?)

[Oggie]

so many opinions... so many biases...

surely there's one thing we can agree on.

since floyd only signs up for fights he knows he's going to win...
(just look to his record for proof.)
and...since floyd won't sign to fight pac...
we can safely assume that floyd knows something we don't:
that he would lose to him.

agreed?

Flawless logic there.

[Zilla]

so many opinions... so many biases...

surely there's one thing we can agree on.

since floyd only signs up for fights he knows he's going to win...
(just look to his record for proof.)
and...since floyd won't sign to fight pac...
we can safely assume that floyd knows something we don't:
that he would lose to him.

agreed?

Flawless logic there.

Maybe he's confused as to which one is Mayweather and which one is Pacquiao.

[erik_corrales]

yeah it can be shady.

thing is, mosley wasn't really "gassed out" gassed out. he was still bullying mayweather, except he couldn't throw his punches. he was being so careful after what happened in the 2nd round, he got tense. He wanted to throw the jab but he couldn't cause he was 2nd guessing himself. but he was wrestling mayweather most of the fight. its not like he was all sluggish and slow(although he did lose a lot of pop starting around the 6th round). he just abandoned all hope after learning that mayweather was gaining control. that's what made him look aged. kind of like a de la hoya in front of pac. or maybe even a pavlik out there with b hop, later rounds of diaz - marquez?

i don't know, that's how i see it.

[JJson]

Don't know where all these people are coming out with "why you hating on Mayweather?" I don't know. Maybe because he's a punk-ass, scumbag without a shred of character of decency?

Great fighter? Yes. An all time Great? Yes. A decent, morally upright human?
Hell no.

So, who are your heroes in this regard. Floyd Mayweather is no worse than the culture that spawned him. What decency are you talking about.

There is something cognitively dissonant about people affixing saintly human virtues to an activity of violence produced to sate the cravings of an audience. It is idiotic, it is stupid, and it is demonstrably hypocritical. Morally and decent humans and commercial violence are two mutually exclusive plains of existence. You guys have become so accustomed to retarded trains of thinking and formulations that it reshapes your congitive reality. That God and his Son will ignore all the suffering that takes place in this world in order to give their attention to paid gladiators plying their trade is a manifestation of retarded thinking. That this way of making a living is consistent with human values of decency and morally uprightness is evidence of romantic hallucinations. Wake up!!!

[BoxingGeniusStacks]

Don't know where all these people are coming out with "why you hating on Mayweather?" I don't know. Maybe because he's a punk-ass, scumbag without a shred of character of decency?

Great fighter? Yes. An all time Great? Yes. A decent, morally upright human?
Hell no.

Morals are you kidding me? Morales? LOL. Money Mayweather is a character that Floyd uses to boost ticket sales, because with that barvado people will pay to see him lose. When the real Floyd comes through is when after the fight he immediately starts talking about needing to do something with all four of his kids. Cant see how you can question that