Fighter's I Believe That Could Of Beaten Floyd Mayweather Jr

[El Kabong]

Well Taeth people consider Duran and Whittaker 2 of the greatest lightweights of ALL TIME.....I'm not saying he's not great but they don't say that about Floyd Mayweather Jr. and there ARE valid reasons behind that line of thinking.

[generalbulldog]

BTW, I have to add Marvin Hagler at 160.

Someone in the other thread believes FLoyd will beat Hagler in 15 rounds easily.

I love FLoyd's skills, but he ain't beating Hagler and he ain't beating him easily.

[X]

BTW, I have to add Marvin Hagler at 160.

Someone in the other thread believes FLoyd will beat Hagler in 15 rounds easily.

I love FLoyd's skills, but he ain't beating Hagler and he ain't beating him easily.

That's ridiculous, isn't it. Floyd is a small welterweight and Hagler would have been much too big and strong. Marvin would come out like he did against Hearns and Floyd would just be a bit too small, Hagler would walk right through him (and I mean that with no disrespect to Mayweather). Jesus, nuthuggers will srat saying that Floys would outbox prime Mike Tyson next.

I'd like to have seen Floyd v a prime Don Curry, that would have been fun. Ray leonard and Floys would have been a fascinating matchup.

I think Floyd is a much smoother boxer, and possibly a more complete fighter, than Tommy Hearns ..... but I think that the REAL Hit Man would have been PBF's nightmare opponent.

[THE THIRD MAN]

Super Feather - Azumah Nelson

Lightweight- Roberto Duran

Super Lightweight- Kostya Tszyu/Aaron Pryor

Welterweight - Sugar Ray Leonard/Tommy Hearns

All of the above in ther prime would give Mayweather hell.

Mosley was 8-9 years from his prime.

What i saw in Round 2 when Mosley caught Floyd, convinces me Tzsyu would have landed his right hand at some point, his hand speed and accuracy was exceptional.

[JazMerkin]

Super Feather - Azumah Nelson

Lightweight- Roberto Duran

Super Lightweight- Kostya Tszyu/Aaron Pryor

Welterweight - Sugar Ray Leonard/Tommy Hearns

All of the above in ther prime would give Mayweather hell.

Mosley was 8-9 years from his prime.

What i saw in Round 2 when Mosley caught Floyd, convinces me Tzsyu would have landed his right hand at some point, his hand speed and accuracy was exceptional.

How did I know you'd find a way to get all over Tszyu's balls

If he can take Mosley's punches, he could take Tszyu's. No way was Tzsyu faster than Shane or more powerful. Oh but wait, he stopped Zab Judah right

[THE THIRD MAN]

Super Feather - Azumah Nelson

Lightweight- Roberto Duran

Super Lightweight- Kostya Tszyu/Aaron Pryor

Welterweight - Sugar Ray Leonard/Tommy Hearns

All of the above in ther prime would give Mayweather hell.

Mosley was 8-9 years from his prime.

What i saw in Round 2 when Mosley caught Floyd, convinces me Tzsyu would have landed his right hand at some point, his hand speed and accuracy was exceptional.

How did I know you'd find a way to get all over Tszyu's balls

If he can take Mosley's punches, he could take Tszyu's. No way was Tzsyu faster than Shane or more powerful. Oh but wait, he stopped Zab Judah right

Shane Mosley is 39 in September, inactive for the past 15 months and he almost knocked Floyd out in the 2nd round! Tszyu ate southpaws for breakfast, the Tszyu of 99-2001 would give Floyd hell. Maybe the Mosley of 2000 would too? I'm not saying they would win, Floyd's performance against Mosley was brilliant after being in real trouble early. What i am saying is Tszyu was probably the best fighter i have seen against southpaws.
Also, Zab Judah was the favourite going into that fight too!

[JazMerkin]

Super Feather - Azumah Nelson

Lightweight- Roberto Duran

Super Lightweight- Kostya Tszyu/Aaron Pryor

Welterweight - Sugar Ray Leonard/Tommy Hearns

All of the above in ther prime would give Mayweather hell.

Mosley was 8-9 years from his prime.

What i saw in Round 2 when Mosley caught Floyd, convinces me Tzsyu would have landed his right hand at some point, his hand speed and accuracy was exceptional.

How did I know you'd find a way to get all over Tszyu's balls

If he can take Mosley's punches, he could take Tszyu's. No way was Tzsyu faster than Shane or more powerful. Oh but wait, he stopped Zab Judah right

Shane Mosley is 39 in September, inactive for the past 15 months and he almost knocked Floyd out in the 2nd round! Tszyu ate southpaws for breakfast, the Tszyu of 99-2001 would give Floyd hell. Maybe the Mosley of 2000 would too? I'm not saying they would win, Floyd's performance against Mosley was brilliant after being in real trouble early. What i am saying is Tszyu was probably the best fighter i have seen against southpaws.
Also, Zab Judah was the favourite going into that fight too!

That's great, not that it would make any difference seeing as Floyd is an ORTHODOX fighter.

You're right in 99-01, Tszyu probably would have given him hell seeing as Floyd was a 130lber then

For all of what Mosley was facing, he's so superior a fighter now to what Tszyu ever was it's unreal.

[generalbulldog]

Super Feather - Azumah Nelson

Lightweight- Roberto Duran

Super Lightweight- Kostya Tszyu/Aaron Pryor

Welterweight - Sugar Ray Leonard/Tommy Hearns

All of the above in ther prime would give Mayweather hell.

Mosley was 8-9 years from his prime.

What i saw in Round 2 when Mosley caught Floyd, convinces me Tzsyu would have landed his right hand at some point, his hand speed and accuracy was exceptional.

How did I know you'd find a way to get all over Tszyu's balls

If he can take Mosley's punches, he could take Tszyu's. No way was Tzsyu faster than Shane or more powerful. Oh but wait, he stopped Zab Judah right

Shane Mosley is 39 in September, inactive for the past 15 months and he almost knocked Floyd out in the 2nd round! Tszyu ate southpaws for breakfast, the Tszyu of 99-2001 would give Floyd hell. Maybe the Mosley of 2000 would too? I'm not saying they would win, Floyd's performance against Mosley was brilliant after being in real trouble early. What i am saying is Tszyu was probably the best fighter i have seen against southpaws.
Also, Zab Judah was the favourite going into that fight too!

Yes, we all know the legendary Tszyu could have beaten Floyd and Pacquiao all on the same night. In fact he was so dangerous guys like Oscar, Floyd, Manny, all ducked him. In fact the great 147 pound class in the 90s with Quartey, DLH, Whitaker, Mosley, all ducked Tszyu by not refusing to drop down to 140 to fight him.

I mean my god, when you beat a Zab Judah and a 40 year old Chavez, no one's going to want to fight you!

[The Shadow]

Shame about Norris: the man can't even form complete sentences anymore. But, I think Norris would have given a ton of trouble, as Norris was a gifted athlete.
I don't think Duran had the hand-speed to compete with F.M.
I think Ray Robinson would have beaten him, but it would be a real technical fight.
I think there's a high probability that he gets caught by Leonard or Hearns. Both were great finishers. I really don't know. Would be interesting to write a program that takes all of these factors into consideration and spits out probable results.
As much as I admired Tszyu, I don't think he would have much of a shot. However, as a previous poster mentioned, Tszyu was deadly accurate with his punches. If Kostya would have landed the same right that Mosley landed in round 2, I think Tszyu would have had a much better chance at finishing Mayweather.
Whitaker would have proven to be a really intriguing match-up, but I think Mayweather has better defensive skills. Power goes to Whitaker, though. Whitaker was also a very adaptable fighter. I'm really not sure about this one.
I think Arguello would have been another intriguing match-up. I've effectively thrown his losses to Pryor to the wind, as Pryor had that piece of filth Panama Lewis in his corner - a man who has ended the career of many a promising fighter with his illegal tactics. Just look at what happened to Collins.

[jahmez]

I think someone who can feint right hands and follow up with a leaping left hook could hurt Floyd. SRR could do this and follow up that leaping left hook with two more, all fast and powerful. SRR had so many options offensively and if Floyd managed to close down that avenue he could revert to those beautiful right hands to the body that he threw around an opponent's guard taking away Floyd's attention from his own upper right side. Eventually, Floyd would adjust and look to counter with right hands to the head and this is where SRR could once again land left hooks. SRR was also great at jabbing while circling to his left, something that opens up angles for right hands to the body when facing an opponent with his lead should raised plus he could fight on the inside. Floyd's "shoulder roll" style was also a much more common way of fighting back in SRR's day so I think he would be the most accustomed to deal with Floyd's awkardness. Tommy's one of my favourite fighters but unless he knocked him out early I don't think he had the stamina nor variation of punches to keep Floyd from adjusting. As great as he was I always remember him jabbing looking to unload that huge right hand or throwing left hooks to the body then head which is fine from the outside but what happens when FLoyd weasles his way inside? But Tommy had that killer instinct and if he was in the same situation Mosley found himself he would've mauled Floyd till he dropped him or the ref stopped the fight. Man Mosley could've done it. It was like watching my clown of a mate on Saturday night somehow managing to get these absolute glamours up to dance with him but he just didn't make a fucking move. Frustrating shit.

[Iceman778]

i think you are right i agreed with you

[HattonTheHammer]

dan sherry at 154 would give mayweather problems

leonard-mayweather would be the ultimate welterweight fight

[ICB]

dan sherry at 154 would give mayweather problems

leonard-mayweather would be the ultimate welterweight fight

Dan Sherry WTF ?

[Taeth]

Well Taeth people consider Duran and Whittaker 2 of the greatest lightweights of ALL TIME.....I'm not saying he's not great but they don't say that about Floyd Mayweather Jr. and there ARE valid reasons behind that line of thinking.

They are ATGs, but Mayweather may conceivably end up a greater all time player then either of them in multiple weight classes.

I just feel Mayweather's style is all wrong for these guys. Duran would be frustrated by Floyd's movement, and when he did catch Floyd, this is a much better defensive fighter than Leonard, and I think it would tell.

The problem Whitaker would have is that his defense was largely based on reflexes and ingenuity, but I truly believe Floyd is too fast and accurate and adaptive with his punches for that type of defensive strategy. I think Whitaker being a fast southpaw with amazing skill would cause Mayweather some problems, but Floyd would keep his hands up, and catch Whitaker's punches off his gloves, then gradually integrate more and more offensive as the fight progresses similar to how he fought Judah, but I think Judah's speed and power were one tier above Pernell's.

I think Mayweather-Duran would be an incredibly tough fight because Floyd doesn't ride the bicycle like Leonard did in the second outing against Duran, but I do believe Floyd would win by a large margin against Pernell.

[generalbulldog]

Well Taeth people consider Duran and Whittaker 2 of the greatest lightweights of ALL TIME.....I'm not saying he's not great but they don't say that about Floyd Mayweather Jr. and there ARE valid reasons behind that line of thinking.

They are ATGs, but Mayweather may conceivably end up a greater all time player then either of them in multiple weight classes.

I just feel Mayweather's style is all wrong for these guys. Duran would be frustrated by Floyd's movement, and when he did catch Floyd, this is a much better defensive fighter than Leonard, and I think it would tell.

The problem Whitaker would have is that his defense was largely based on reflexes and ingenuity, but I truly believe Floyd is too fast and accurate and adaptive with his punches for that type of defensive strategy. I think Whitaker being a fast southpaw with amazing skill would cause Mayweather some problems, but Floyd would keep his hands up, and catch Whitaker's punches off his gloves, then gradually integrate more and more offensive as the fight progresses similar to how he fought Judah, but I think Judah's speed and power were one tier above Pernell's.

I think Mayweather-Duran would be an incredibly tough fight because Floyd doesn't ride the bicycle like Leonard did in the second outing against Duran, but I do believe Floyd would win by a large margin against Pernell.

At 135 or 147 against Duran?

I don't think Floyd beats Duran at all at 135, he has a chance at 147, but I wouldn't favor him.