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Yes, we all know the legendary Tszyu could have beaten Floyd and Pacquiao all on the same night. In fact he was so dangerous guys like Oscar, Floyd, Manny, all ducked him. In fact the great 147 pound class in the 90s with Quartey, DLH, Whitaker, Mosley, all ducked Tszyu by not refusing to drop down to 140 to fight him.

I mean my god, when you beat a Zab Judah and a 40 year old Chavez, no one's going to want to fight you!
You all laugh about Tszyu beating Zab but you all forget he was meant to be the next big thing in boxing. Also if watch Zab fight after the tszyu fight hes a different fighter, he doesnt want to get hit. Face it Tszyu ended Zabs career, Zab would not be the scared little fighter he is today if Tszyu hadnt of knocked him out that way. So saying "oh Tszyu only beat Zab", well im pretty sure Tszyu beat Zab when he was at his best unlike other guys like Clottey, Cotto and Mayweather and it all took them longer then 2 rounds
Do you not maybe see the correlation between those two points?

It was a great shot to finish him no doubt, but it was that, we don't call Hasim Rahman an ATG because he got a great shot in on Lewis who I shouldn't even be comparing with Zab.

Zab won the first round as well.

The point is that Tszyu did nothing to give merit to the argument that Pacquaio, Mayweather, Mosley & De La Hoya would have all crumbled in his wake. All of those 4 guys are genuine ATGs. Tszyu just isn't, he was an excellent fighter and a almost certain Hall of Famer, but an all-time great he ain't.
So a fighter who fought almost 50% of his professional career against former or at the time current World Champions, was a World Champion for almost 10 years and a unified World Champion (very rare in boxing these days) is not an ATG? Some people are hard to please. Both DLH and Mosley fought on far to long and we remember their greatness fondly, in reality Mosley's past 7 or 8 years has been very ordinary (8-6 and one NC) and DLH against Pacquaio was just plain emabarrassing, at least Tszyu got out when he did without ever making a fool of himself. Mosley was a shadow of the fighter he once was against Mayweather, he had him in round 2, by round 5 Mosley was done and dusted. As for Zab, he was on top of the world at the time of that fight and give him his due, he was the only one willing to fight Tszyu and actually go through with it, Chavez pleaded with Tszyu for that fight in 1999 and out of respect for him Tszyu agreed. I think Floyd Mayweather is an incredible fighter, his performance against Mosley when he was in real trouble was exceptional, forget the PBF trash talking, Mayweather is one smart fighter.