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    I think Mosley was over trained, 38 years old, and Mayweather was just too fast for him.

    Also Mosley was really tensed up and not relaxed in there, and being tense will tire you out very quickly.

    It takes twice as much energy to fight tense and nervous than loose and relaxed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    I think Mosley was over trained, 38 years old, and Mayweather was just too fast for him.

    Also Mosley was really tensed up and not relaxed in there, and being tense will tire you out very quickly.

    It takes twice as much energy to fight tense and nervous than loose and relaxed.
    I honestly think it was avoiding the towel at any given moment in camp that took his stamina away.

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    if you look at mosleys fights the past few years the only impressive one was margocheater. other than that, he has looked like a top 15 fighter, and certainly not a p4pder.

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    I did think about it cause his stamina was so shitty so early but then again its not like its an open and shut thing, he is 38 after all.

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    The reason he looked so stamina-wise and had such great stamina early is basically because he can make another fighter fight his pace that means he can rest when he wants come on when he wants just what he did against Margarito, and he held a lot early in that fight till about the mid rounds when he came on and finished it. Mayweather by taking the fight to him for the whole fight from the last minute of the 2nd round onward he never got that chance. When's the last time you saw a fighter coming forward on Shane Mosley and making him work and expend energy just to keep him off? No one.
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    It has nothing to do with the taking of blood etc. Fact is his age, combined with his inactivity and how good Floyd Mayweather is brought his downfall that night. Nothing else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I brought this up in a different thread and I'm not sure if it has been discussed at length elsewhere. Forgive me for same if it has.

    Does anyone find it a little fishy that Mosley had difficulty with his stamina in this fight given that this is the only fight where Olympic-style drug testing was imposed?

    I'm not putting down Mayweather's performance because either way he fought a near-flawless fight, but Mosley looked not himself. He had the best trainer (imo) in the business giving him great advice in his corner and every indication was that he had a good camp. He was coming off a career-defining win.

    Explain to me how Hatton at 147 performed better against Mayweather over ten rounds than Mosley over 12. It's just a little odd.
    Why didn't mayweather have problems with his stamina then? He under went exactly the same tests. Even playing field thats the point. Nothing fishy at all.

    unless you are insinuating that this is the first fight mosley has done without roids in him....

    And the Hatton thing is simple. He's underated by anyone whos not british. Hatton deserves alot more credit for his performance against floyd. Hatton also had the ref against him. At least Mosley didn't have to worry about both floyd and bayliss.
    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    I did think about it cause his stamina was so shitty so early but then again its not like its an open and shut thing, he is 38 after all.
    That is what I'm insinuating, Hornfinger.

    His lack of stamina could definitely also be due to his age and inactivity. There is no way to rule out those reasons although it is funny that his stamina was much better in his last fight and the one before that. You don't change that much over night. At least the odds are the same, correct? I mean logically, it could be any of the reasons.

    Consider Margarito's situation. You have to assume that Margarito was loading his gloves in every fight prior to getting caught because he himself denies knowing that his gloves were being loaded before the Shane fight. And if he didn't know his gloves were loaded for the Shane fight, he can't know his gloves weren't loaded in his previous fights. Without even looking at Cotto's face, who's to say they weren't? Same goes here. Like Richardson spotting the loaded gloves in the Margarito fight and preventing them from being used, Mayweather may have prevented the steroids from being used here.

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    If Mosley was using steriods for every other fight then he would simply have refused this fight. I think he wanted to prove that he was as good as everybody said after the Maragrito fight.
    His age and inactivity count against him and im sure Mayweathers accurate punches only made matters worse!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    The reason he looked so stamina-wise and had such great stamina early is basically because he can make another fighter fight his pace that means he can rest when he wants come on when he wants just what he did against Margarito, and he held a lot early in that fight till about the mid rounds when he came on and finished it. Mayweather by taking the fight to him for the whole fight from the last minute of the 2nd round onward he never got that chance. When's the last time you saw a fighter coming forward on Shane Mosley and making him work and expend energy just to keep him off? No one.
    Margarito came forward all night, as did mayorga, vargas, oscar in the first fight, winky in both fights...Shane has never tired nor backed down from fighters coming forward.

    How can one suggest that shane got tired because of what mayweather did when mayweather didn't do anything but get hurt and shane suddenly stopped punching. Then for those suggesting that he got tired after the second round because of adjustments by floyd is ridiculous, because shane knew he was hurt and press the action. Even in the margarito fight shane immediately came out the next round and jumped on him

    "I didn't want him to lose that buzz"

    I think it's fine that floyd didn't go down and still fought like a champ, but the more reasonable and obvious facts (38+15layoff+overtrainined) weigh more heavily than floyd adjusted causing mosely instantly get tired in less than one after he hurt floyd...

    How can he get tired from not throwing punches, because floyd didnt do much either in round 3...
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